Seeking low tech way to measure brew temperature

Beginner and pro baristas share tips and tricks.
ron45

Postby ron45 » Dec 08, 2005, 11:22 pm

The subject pretty much covers it. I saw a reference to using a styrofoam cup but there were no particulars.

Ron

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barry

Postby barry » Dec 08, 2005, 11:56 pm

foam cup method:

take a small foam cup which will fit up against the group gasket (6oz is about the right size), and push a dial stem thermometer through the side about an inch up from the bottom. angle the thermometer stem downwards across the cup and wedge it into the opposite bottom corner. to measure brew water temp, remove the portafilter from the machine and hold the cup firmly against the group gasket on the underside of the brewhead in such a way that you can see the thermometer dial. run about 2oz of water into the cup and watch the thermometer dial for the maximum temperature reached. it's easy to get burned doing this, so be careful not to let hot water run onto your hand.

i've got illustrations someplace....

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another_jim
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Postby another_jim » Dec 09, 2005, 12:01 am

Welcome to the boards.

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/techbuys2003/tm-125.html

Cheapest thermocouple and meter on the planet. Greg has no reason to be scared, but it will measure your average shot temperatures to the nearest degree accuracy. Either make up a schomer style temperature measuring PF (or basket if you have a naked one), or just thread the thermocouple (which is a plain wire) up the spout of the PF and stuff some tinfoil into the PF so the TC stays submerged. The water will flow too fast, but the average reading from 3 ounces of water will be within a degree of what you get using more sophisticated devices.

You will need more expensive gear to get a profile over the course of a shot -- a recording meter and a specially made basket either Schomer or Scace style.

For permanent monitoring, many people strip off the outer insulation of the TC's wire pair and run the two thin wires between the group gasket and the PF-basket lip, attaching the probe to the shower screen. The wire will eventually break (mine always within a week), but some people have gotten a few months service out of the arrangement. The more permanent continuous shot monitoring installation requires drilling and plumbing the grouphead. This is well above my skill rating -- check with Barry, Greg, Andy, Sean, Mosfet, Lino or any other mad machine modders I may have missed.

ron45

Postby ron45 » Dec 09, 2005, 1:59 pm

Barry, Jim, Thanks for the info. I neglected to say how pleased I was to come across this forum. The resources area is a machine tweakers delight. I got the link from Anthony at Caffe Fresco. I'm anxious to try his espresso blends as well as the SO one he's roasting in the N. Italian sytle.

Ron

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Rybolt

Postby Rybolt » Jan 09, 2009, 1:15 pm

another_jim wrote:Welcome to the boards.

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/techbuys2003/tm-125.html



Link is dead for me, any alternatives?

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ddr

Postby ddr » Jan 09, 2009, 1:33 pm

Dan
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Frost

Postby Frost » Jan 09, 2009, 1:48 pm

http://webtronics.stores.yahoo.net/digtherwkpro.html

Here's one I use for roasting. It checks accurate for boiling (.....after a calibration :shock: ) but many others have gotten these accurate right out of the box.

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cannonfodder
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Postby cannonfodder » Jan 12, 2009, 12:43 am

Boy, reviving an old thread. The thermocouple may no longer be available because the original posting was 4 years ago. An instant read thermometer from the local kitchen supply store will work. You can usually pick up a type K thermocouple multimeter on EBay pretty cheap as well.
Dave Stephens

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erics

Postby erics » Jan 19, 2009, 11:32 am

A nice thermometer is the Taylor 524 as described here: http://www.taylorusa.com/advantage/imag...ochure.pdf
The "out of the box" calibration is usually easily within +/- 1 degree F. Checking thermometer or thermocouple calibration in boiling water is typically a hit and miss affair because of convection currents in the water. Sticking the instrument in an ice slurpy mix or condensing steam is much better.
Skål,

Eric S.
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E-mail: erics at rcn dot com

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TUS172

Postby TUS172 » Jan 25, 2009, 1:57 pm

Yep, I went ahead and ordered one of these: Shipping was not that great but what the hey... :shock: http://webtronics.stores.yahoo.net/digtherwkpro1.html
It will be great to have one of these around to periodically have the option to check what my 2nd 3rd or 4th pulls are doing. Having the Boiler gauged to pressure and the Ceme pressurestat set fairly tight is one thing but to get that accurate measurement from near the screen will be of great value. Thanks for the revival of this thread.
Bob C.
(No longer a lever purist!)
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