Milk Frothing Pitchers or Jugs - Favorites

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EvergreenBuzzBuzz

Postby EvergreenBuzzBuzz » May 14, 2018, 10:59 am

I am looking for a new 12oz / 350ml jug.

Seems like four of the favorites right now are from Decent, Barista Hustle, Espro Toroid, and Motta.

https://decentespresso.com/milk_jug

https://baristahustle.com/products/bari ... 3516233740
You can watch the video to see what they consider important.

https://www.wholelattelove.com/espro-toroid-2-pitcher

https://www.amazon.com/Motta-Stainless- ... ca7e0&th=1

The Motta is listed in different sizes and colors. The stainless is more expensive. The listing says the colored ones are sandblasted on the inside.

I noted this post in a closed thread commenting on the thickness of the steel (Decent thinner, BH thicker):
Barista Hustle Precision Milk Pitcher

I noted this follow up by bluesman -"The steel does make one clear difference, unless you use a thermometer in the milk (which I've never done). Thinner metal heats more quickly, and different alloys have different thermal conductivities. So those of us who "time" stretching by feeling warmth in the hand that cups the pitcher have to learn when to stop stretching for each different pitcher. My really thin ones (which are also my least expensive) heat up rapidly just from the steam jet if I keep the tip close to the side. I stopped stretching while the milk was barely warm when I first used one, because the pitcher got really warm really fast. My thicker commercial pitchers warm more gradually, so I stop as soon as they pass out of the range of body temp (i.e. start feeling warm).

Using the same (or an identical) pitcher every time makes consistency much easier to achieve. I also watch the level and listen carefully, so that I stretch enough but not too much. But I need to discard the cheap ones and get a few more just like the commercial 12 oz I was given by my friend years ago. Sadly, I (like my pitchers) have been too cheap :lol:"

So what are people using and what do they like?

Finally a pet peeve related to Decent - Their price on Amazon today for the 350ml pitcher is $54, yet the price on their site is $33 with $10 shipping. They ship from Hong Kong. Why don't they figure out a fair price to allow Amazon to distribute in the US. I know it's not a $20 markup. In the US you can get the BH one for $49 with free shipping from Prima.

Thanks Michael
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JFDUP

Postby JFDUP » May 14, 2018, 11:51 am

I'm also considering a new pitcher in the same size. I currently have a rattleware, but I'm thinking of trying a different spout design. The motta seems very good. I've tried the espro toroid before. It's a very nice pitcher, but in order to take advantage of the whirlpool effect, you need to have the wand straight down the middle, which might not be possible on every machine. For example, I was never able to get a proper angle on my La Pavoni making the pitcher a bit useless. It did work great on my dad's silvia though so. Just something to keep in mind.

EvergreenBuzzBuzz

Postby EvergreenBuzzBuzz » replying to JFDUP » May 14, 2018, 12:42 pm

Do you have any insight into the differences between the Motta SS and the colored ones which appear to have a coating on them?
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JFDUP

Postby JFDUP » May 14, 2018, 12:59 pm

No I don't. I know Dritan Alsela uses the black motta pitcher I think. Seems to be giving him good results.

al3xx

Postby al3xx » May 14, 2018, 1:42 pm

I've got an array of pitchers, and can say the following...

Barista Hustle
Just got this, it's got a lot of potential and has a great geometry on the spout. For me it's a little big on the diameter, but other than that, it's beautiful. The black coating is not as nice as I'd like and takes on finger prints and water marks easily. If I were to get another, I'd get the stainless version. It's a little more fragile feeling than I was expecting, the walls are decently thin, at least compared to the Rattleware ones.

Toroid
Tried one before, not this brand, but personally the toroid bottom did not improve my steaming technique.

Motta
I got a knock-off one. The higher and wider spout makes it harder for me to pour intricate art.

I pour for small drinks primarily - cortado to flat white size. If you're looking on a budget, I have this pitcher and it's actually quite good, especially for the price. Wall is thin, and spout design is similar to BH, it's just a little smaller. Not sure if mine was made "just right," but it's the cheapest/best value pitcher I have.

JFDUP

Postby JFDUP » May 14, 2018, 1:46 pm

Thanks! Good deal. I also tend to make smaller drinks so.

EvergreenBuzzBuzz

Postby EvergreenBuzzBuzz » May 14, 2018, 1:48 pm

That is why I want to try this size. We have 8 and 16oz, nick named too little and too big. Hence why I want to explore this size. Al3xx how is the quality of the Amazon one. Is it aligned like HB claims all of theirs are?
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bluesman

Postby bluesman » May 14, 2018, 3:53 pm

The pitcher my friend gave me is a Rattleware 12 - he used them in his cafe & gave me one when I asked where I could buy one (this was several years ago). I bought 2 more Rattleware 12s a few months ago and love them. My 16 oz pitcher is also a Rattleware, but a handleless one. I removed the rubber sleeve and am happy with it.

I prefer the thicker SS both for feel and for its gentler warming as a guide to stretching - when it starts feeling warm, I'm done. I gave my cheap thin pitchers to my wife for watering plants.

mrjag

Postby mrjag » May 14, 2018, 9:36 pm

I mostly reach for the Rattleware 12oz and once in a while for the Breville 16oz (included with the BDB920). I like the Rattleware enough that I bought a 2nd.

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marlodmb

Postby marlodmb » May 14, 2018, 10:20 pm

Just ordered the 20oz star coffee pitcher off amazon :D