Gassy crema dissipates quickly - Page 2

Beginner and pro baristas share tips and tricks.

Postby Deebo » Mar 12, 2018, 10:17 pm

daveR1 wrote:Devin,
Aren't you in Denver, isn't that @ 5300' higher than Salt Lake?
One of my favorite spots is a coffee shop on the mountain @ Alta ski resort @ 9000'. I'll have to ask them if they've had similar issues.

BTW - it only happens with some coffees. I got some coffee from Caffe Umbria in Seattle the other day & at 6 days post roast, the crema had a lot of large bubbles. @ 10 days post, the large bubbles have decreased and the flavors improved. crema is still a bit thin compared to some other coffees.

FYI - I base all my recipes on weight, using volume as only a very general indicator.

Haha yea, for some reason I read that as "6300" and didn't put any thought into it. I am going to start pulling by weight and see where it gets me.

homeburrero wrote:I'm at 5000 ft here in Albuquerque, and have found that I need to stop very soon after the end of the water dance. If I were to stop according to total flush volume, or by grouphead thermometer reading , the altitude wouldn't make much difference, but the end of the water dance of course would be expected to happen later and at a cooler temp. I generally stop the cooling flush right about the time I hear it subside on my Giotto Evo for a flush-and-go. Try some shorter flushes to see if the taste improves, but don't expect that to reduce your bubbles.

I had the same reservation about the appearance of the EricS grouphead thermometer but got over that and am glad I did. For flush-and-go from an idle machine I could work fine without it, but for subsequent shots, for learning about the machine, and for knowing right away when I have a stalled thermosyphon it has proved indispensable.

There seems to be general consensus that giving roasts a long rest is a good idea at altitude - ask at the shops there in Denver that you like - they may be resting their beans longer than you do. Here's a topic with some good posts about that: Espresso at altitude - Could use some theory . Also see this post - About Roasting and Brewing at Altitude from an experienced home roaster and barista (Martin) who moved from New York to Santa Fe. Note that he had the bubbles, but found it best to ignore them.

Awesome man, thanks for the info!
Don't overthink it