Brew ratio for my espresso - Page 2
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Hi Jeff,Jeff wrote:The Robot is not very fussy about temperature at all. It is much easier to manage than a La Pavoni.
There is a long thread here Cafelat Robot User Experience
For many, many reasons, that is not a video that I would strive to repeat.
The fineness of the grinds is only one part of a grinder being suitable for espresso. It also needs to be both uniform and easily and finely controllable in grind, preferably without steps. Even with a machine as good as a Robot, a $160 Delonghi KG89 grinder is likely to be the limit and that limit may be before you can reliably make good espresso.
Thanks so much for the help.
If I got a Baratza Virtuoso as a starter, will that suffice as a beginner addition to the Robot?
Jonathan.
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Hello everyone! I am new here!
I hope my question is not completely irrelevant, but I googled XP3208 and I think this is the only thread that somebody mentions this machine.
I purchased XP3208 about a year ago. I then accidentally discovered James Hoffman - instantly became a subscriber - so I realised that my selection wasn't the best.
However, it's my first espresso machine and I am happy that I can finally try ANY coffee I like and not depend on the cafeterias' choices.
Having said that, I still have a problem with the machine and I haven't found any solution yet.
When I buy certain brands, the machine refuses to make coffee... The extraction lasts for about 2 seconds and then it stops. The machine keeps trying, but it cannot finish the process. So, I turn it off and remove the portafilter and the basket is filled with water on top of the coffee.
In the beginning, I thought that a pipe must be malfunctioning or something similar.
Nevertheless, if I tried to brew a different brand, it would work properly.
After repeating the process with the "problematic" coffee, I realised that the machine would actually make coffee if I don't press the coffee with the tamper. All these efforts have been made with 12.5 to 13 grams of coffee, using the 2 cup filter.
As a result, I can only guess that the basket is rubbish, but I don't know if there is a compatible replacement.
I've heard James Hoffman talking about these VST baskets, but they seem wider.
Now, you may say, and I won't argue, that this may be a matter of grinding, so I must find the grind size.
Unfortunately, I don't own a grinder, so I purchase coffee from different stores, even the supermarket (especially during the lockdown).
Can you suggest a reliable compatible basket or any other advice for my problem?
// I am not a native speaker, so I'm not familiar with the espresso terminology; I hope my post gives the full picture
I hope my question is not completely irrelevant, but I googled XP3208 and I think this is the only thread that somebody mentions this machine.
I purchased XP3208 about a year ago. I then accidentally discovered James Hoffman - instantly became a subscriber - so I realised that my selection wasn't the best.
However, it's my first espresso machine and I am happy that I can finally try ANY coffee I like and not depend on the cafeterias' choices.
Having said that, I still have a problem with the machine and I haven't found any solution yet.
When I buy certain brands, the machine refuses to make coffee... The extraction lasts for about 2 seconds and then it stops. The machine keeps trying, but it cannot finish the process. So, I turn it off and remove the portafilter and the basket is filled with water on top of the coffee.
In the beginning, I thought that a pipe must be malfunctioning or something similar.
Nevertheless, if I tried to brew a different brand, it would work properly.
After repeating the process with the "problematic" coffee, I realised that the machine would actually make coffee if I don't press the coffee with the tamper. All these efforts have been made with 12.5 to 13 grams of coffee, using the 2 cup filter.
As a result, I can only guess that the basket is rubbish, but I don't know if there is a compatible replacement.
I've heard James Hoffman talking about these VST baskets, but they seem wider.
Now, you may say, and I won't argue, that this may be a matter of grinding, so I must find the grind size.
Unfortunately, I don't own a grinder, so I purchase coffee from different stores, even the supermarket (especially during the lockdown).
Can you suggest a reliable compatible basket or any other advice for my problem?
// I am not a native speaker, so I'm not familiar with the espresso terminology; I hope my post gives the full picture
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The problem probably is the grind is too fine and it is jamming the machine. machines like the XP3208 use 15 bar of pressure with a pressurized portafilter (PF). A machine like that is trying to compensate for a pour grind and usually is better with a corser grind. The 15 bar will compress the puck more and the pressurized PF ensures it hits a certain pressure before it exits the machine. Typical machines have 9 bar of pressure which have less compression power being pushed on the puck and the non-pressurized PF means resistance is from the coffee not the PF (or basket). If you have a grinder I would grind coarser but your research is correct that the XP3208 isn't the best machine on the market. If your able and are serious about espresso I would invest in a better machine. If you're a Hoffmann fan he just posted a new video getting a set up in a budget. Might be something to consider for your next purchase.