Roast and Learn Together - June 2014 - Page 5
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Meh on that roast. No sweetness in the cup.bmock wrote:So how did it develop?
I did a 180gram batch on my behmor. p1 1/2lb setting. drying ended around 5:30ish, first crack around 9:30 dropped at 11:00. 13.9% weight loss. Looking forward to tasting.
I have done one roast that I do like. At work so don't have my notes, but basically it was 227g p1 1lb. Cooled like 1 min through first crack while it was cracking, much better. More tea like, tropical fruit, sugar cane sweetness. Still not great tho, but at least good.
- TomC (original poster)
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This coffee had bucket loads of sugary sweetness and clean fruit. I just think it needs a fast, hard hitting roast profile that's kept pretty short. I never got too excited about Behmor roasts of tricky Ethiopian coffees.
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- bean2friends
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I have a pound and a half left. Good for one more good roast. I plan to go hard and fast and stop 1 1/2 minutes after 1cs. It's not the kind of roast I typically favor, but I don't do this roast and learn to just do what I'm comfortable with. I want to get some of that sweetness. Actually, the tomatoes I get so far are sweet, it's just that they're, well, tomatoes. I prefer other fruits. I got my July beans today too so I'm gonna be doing some roasting this weekend I think.
- Boldjava
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Stewed tomatoes?bean2friends wrote:...Actually, the tomatoes I get so far are sweet, it's just that they're, well, tomatoes...
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- bean2friends
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Yeah, I think so. When I was a boy my mother would make stewed tomatoes often as a vegetable. My dad like them, or so he said. Me, not so much. A little sugar would improve them for me. But, yes, in fact, just grinding these beans made the whole house smell of stewed tomatoes.
- Boldjava
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I get stewed tomatoes in some of the savory coffees. I remember how I laughed the first time someone used the descriptor. I will look for it in this.
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Interesting, I use a behmor, and wasnt blown away by this bean either, I will try a hot and fast roast and see what happens. I am liking the roast I've been getting with the DP Aricha, loads of fruit in that one.TomC wrote:This coffee had bucket loads of sugary sweetness and clean fruit. I just think it needs a fast, hard hitting roast profile that's kept pretty short. I never got too excited about Behmor roasts of tricky Ethiopian coffees.
- bean2friends
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I got pretty much the roast I was looking for today. 1cs at 8:25. stopped the roast at 10:22. I actually intended to go only 1:30 past 1cs but at 9:55 I was getting a very slow BT rise so I let it go a little longer. This looks like a very nice City+ roast. And it was 23 degrees past 1cs for the BT. I was surprised that it was only 11% weight loss. My whole experience with this bean is here: Roast and Learn Together - June 2014
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My last update for June 9. Bottom line - the stewed tomatoes are gone.
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Roasting
Bean: Very nice prep.
WP (72 hours, Kenyan style WP)
Elevation: 2000m
Gene Cafe, 226g charge, 119.0v.
• 1C: 10.45
• Pull: 13:55
• Ended with full city
• Very light chaff (extended wash?)
Protracted 1C, full 2 min. Roast moved along uniformly.
Evaluation
• Fragrance - sweetened cinnamon
• Aroma - sweet roasted grains
• Flavors/nuances - sweet, lemon lime at the back of the tongue, slight melon, soft peach (or is that mango?).
• Body/mouthfeel - light cup, delicate, crystal clean.
• Finish/Aftertaste - True to cup. Sweetness lingers.
Score: 88
----Grading system
88 and above: Superb coffee
87: Outstanding coffee
86.5: Buy range, distribution worthy
86.0: If I needed the origin, I would buy it
85.0: Missing an element
84.0: Specialty coffee but not recommended
80-83: Coffee
79 and below: Standard coffee
Comments/Observations
An outstanding coffee that wouldn't be my cup of choice. Immaculately clean, nice sweet WP Yirge
Bean: Very nice prep.
WP (72 hours, Kenyan style WP)
Elevation: 2000m
Gene Cafe, 226g charge, 119.0v.
• 1C: 10.45
• Pull: 13:55
• Ended with full city
• Very light chaff (extended wash?)
Protracted 1C, full 2 min. Roast moved along uniformly.
Evaluation
• Fragrance - sweetened cinnamon
• Aroma - sweet roasted grains
• Flavors/nuances - sweet, lemon lime at the back of the tongue, slight melon, soft peach (or is that mango?).
• Body/mouthfeel - light cup, delicate, crystal clean.
• Finish/Aftertaste - True to cup. Sweetness lingers.
Score: 88
----Grading system
88 and above: Superb coffee
87: Outstanding coffee
86.5: Buy range, distribution worthy
86.0: If I needed the origin, I would buy it
85.0: Missing an element
84.0: Specialty coffee but not recommended
80-83: Coffee
79 and below: Standard coffee
Comments/Observations
An outstanding coffee that wouldn't be my cup of choice. Immaculately clean, nice sweet WP Yirge
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