Quest M3 Solid vs. Perforated Drum
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I ordered a perforated drum directly from the factory for my Quest M3:
With a local coffee (grown in Antioquia, Colombia) I did a base roast at 8.5 amps and a fan setting of 3 with 200gr. batch on the solid drum. I did not vary power or fan speed during the roast. I then repeated with the same amount of coffee with the perforated drum. Here are the two roasts (background is the base roast):
When I disassembled the roaster I found the BT probe to be bent upward, probably due to my botched nut roasting attempt. I straightened the probe when reassembling so there could be a difference between the solid vs. perforated roast. Still, the perforated roast seems to drop temperature faster and have a higher RoR during drying phase. Afterwards, they both seem to be similar.
I will have to start playing with varying power and fan speed in subsequent roasts to see if it is more responsive. I will keep posted.
With a local coffee (grown in Antioquia, Colombia) I did a base roast at 8.5 amps and a fan setting of 3 with 200gr. batch on the solid drum. I did not vary power or fan speed during the roast. I then repeated with the same amount of coffee with the perforated drum. Here are the two roasts (background is the base roast):
When I disassembled the roaster I found the BT probe to be bent upward, probably due to my botched nut roasting attempt. I straightened the probe when reassembling so there could be a difference between the solid vs. perforated roast. Still, the perforated roast seems to drop temperature faster and have a higher RoR during drying phase. Afterwards, they both seem to be similar.
I will have to start playing with varying power and fan speed in subsequent roasts to see if it is more responsive. I will keep posted.
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Thanks for sharing this. Will be great to learn more! I hope to mod my Quest drum when I visit family in a month.
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You tried nuts? I tried Chestnuts (M3 does looks like the perfect chestnut roaster) but the orifices are too narrow so I couldn't get them out....
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Well, they were Brazilian nuts cut in chunks, put still hard to get in and out. I had tried peanuts before and thought that went well until I found many in the exhaust tube while I was changing the drum, which were WELL past optimum roasting point.
Here is a photo of both coffees roasted. The one on the right is the perf one.
Seems to me both results are comparable. If I had to point a difference, its the perforated one seems a more even roast, but not sure the difference is big. As I said before, probably the biggest difference will be in temperature responsiveness.
Maybe some of the other guys who've done drum mods can shed some light in the differences.
Here is a photo of both coffees roasted. The one on the right is the perf one.
Seems to me both results are comparable. If I had to point a difference, its the perforated one seems a more even roast, but not sure the difference is big. As I said before, probably the biggest difference will be in temperature responsiveness.
Maybe some of the other guys who've done drum mods can shed some light in the differences.
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Could you share the details of the roast: weight, initial temp, temps, fan...
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AndreG,
Here are the Roasting reports:
SOLID DRUM BATCH:
Weight: 200.0g
168.0g (16.0%)
CHARGE: BT 207°C
ET 202°C
TP: 01:00 (115°C)
DRY: 03:40 (149°C)
FCs: 08:52 (194°C)
FCe: 10:42 (210°C)
SCs: 11:47 (220°C)
SCe: --
DROP: 12:23 (227°C)
COOL: 15:43 (03:20m)
MET: 236°C
RoR: 9°C/m
ETBTa: 288 [2410-2122]
CM: 0.2/0.2°C
Drying: 03:40 (30%)
12.6°C/min
113 [618-505]
Grassy/OK
Maillard: 05:11 (42%)
8.7°C/min
128 [1007-879]
Toasty/OK
Development: 03:30 (28%)
9.5°C/min
47 [785-739]
Acidic/OK
Cooling: 03:20 (27%)
Fracturing/Sweet
PERFORATED DRUM BATCH
Weight: 200.0g
167.0g (16.5%)
CHARGE: BT 208°C
ET 224°C
TP: 00:50 (88°C)
DRY: 03:35 (146°C)
FCs: 08:52 (201°C)
FCe: 10:22 (210°C)
SCs: 11:32 (222°C)
SCe: --
DROP: 12:28 (232°C)
COOL: 15:54 (03:25m)
MET: 246°C
RoR: 12°C/m
ETBTa: 536 [2665-2129]
CM: 16.7/7.3°C
Drying: 03:35 (29%)
21.2°C/min
270 [698-428]
Grassy/OK
Maillard: 05:16 (42%)
10.3°C/min
191 [1120-929]
Toasty/OK
Development: 03:35 (29%)
8.7°C/min
75 [847-771]
Acidic/OK
Cooling: 03:25 (27%)
Fracturing/Sweet
In both cases power was constant at 8.5 Amps and Fan setting 3.
Hope that helps.
Here are the Roasting reports:
SOLID DRUM BATCH:
Weight: 200.0g
168.0g (16.0%)
CHARGE: BT 207°C
ET 202°C
TP: 01:00 (115°C)
DRY: 03:40 (149°C)
FCs: 08:52 (194°C)
FCe: 10:42 (210°C)
SCs: 11:47 (220°C)
SCe: --
DROP: 12:23 (227°C)
COOL: 15:43 (03:20m)
MET: 236°C
RoR: 9°C/m
ETBTa: 288 [2410-2122]
CM: 0.2/0.2°C
Drying: 03:40 (30%)
12.6°C/min
113 [618-505]
Grassy/OK
Maillard: 05:11 (42%)
8.7°C/min
128 [1007-879]
Toasty/OK
Development: 03:30 (28%)
9.5°C/min
47 [785-739]
Acidic/OK
Cooling: 03:20 (27%)
Fracturing/Sweet
PERFORATED DRUM BATCH
Weight: 200.0g
167.0g (16.5%)
CHARGE: BT 208°C
ET 224°C
TP: 00:50 (88°C)
DRY: 03:35 (146°C)
FCs: 08:52 (201°C)
FCe: 10:22 (210°C)
SCs: 11:32 (222°C)
SCe: --
DROP: 12:28 (232°C)
COOL: 15:54 (03:25m)
MET: 246°C
RoR: 12°C/m
ETBTa: 536 [2665-2129]
CM: 16.7/7.3°C
Drying: 03:35 (29%)
21.2°C/min
270 [698-428]
Grassy/OK
Maillard: 05:16 (42%)
10.3°C/min
191 [1120-929]
Toasty/OK
Development: 03:35 (29%)
8.7°C/min
75 [847-771]
Acidic/OK
Cooling: 03:25 (27%)
Fracturing/Sweet
In both cases power was constant at 8.5 Amps and Fan setting 3.
Hope that helps.
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WOW! That exceed what I had in mind. Thank you for sharing. And yes, it does help to choose witch modification between the present options.
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Carlos, what size are the holes you put into the drum?
Did you cut out the louvers in the case behind the fan?
Did you cut out the louvers in the case behind the fan?
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Why cut out the louvers?
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Less resistance to air flow. If they get a buildup of crud then they are restricting air. Obviously keep everything clean, but just saying they are in the way.
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