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caffeineme

Postby caffeineme » Apr 27, 2019, 2:52 pm

martianpc wrote:I will compare them, but I don't have the time or expertise to do what Jim is proposing. So I will not be doing a blind comparison. I will be fair though and I really have no bias at all.

Initial observation is that the NZ is much easier to adjust for small changes consistently.

The Specialita is definitely quieter.

I find the NZ does have some retention and needs a small pat on the clear lid when it is done grinding to knock loose what's left. You litteraly see a few clumps come falling out afterward. The specialita has slightly more retention, but with my 3d printed hopper it is very easy to remove the cap and using the palm of my hand gently smack the hopper opening which creates a seal and uses air to push the beans through. Makes it very close in retention levels.

So far taste wise I haven't had enough to compare them fairly at all. I do prefer the grind adjustment substantially on the NZ though while I try different things.

More thoughts to follow.


Hi Mike (and all HBers),

I also have a Mignon Specialita..... got it around March 2019. Actually, started this journey at that time too with a Lelit Mara.

Been wanting to do single-dosing and find that the Specialita lacks this specific capability. It retains too much grind in the shoot/anti-clump mechanism for me. When you single dose with the Specialita, are the grinds consistent? I read somewhere that the Specialita needs a semi-full hopper to ensure consistency. Wondering if you see this with your experience?

Since the Specialita is a flat burr grinder, and the Niche is conical, is there any value in having one of each?

martianpc

Postby martianpc » replying to caffeineme » Apr 28, 2019, 8:53 pm

I found the specialita just fine for single dosing. Honestly some of best shots have come from that grinder. I am going to keep using the Niche at home because it switches from different grind settings easily and I'm going to bring the Eureka to work for making pour overs if it works well for them. I still need to try it. At this point I have not found the niche to be a significant improvement over the specialita.

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luca

Postby luca » May 20, 2019, 6:35 am

Hi Gary,

RE:

I've been trying to dial it in for Clever Dripper and French press. My best results have been going way coarse, keeping in mind recent discussions that grind size may look different and get similar extractions. I've had some very good results, some overextracted when grinding within the recommended scale. I take Jim's word from blind tasting that his Mazzer Mini with brew burrs outperforms the Niche, but the Niche holds its own. If I get a chance I'll compare it to my Baratza Virtuoso and early version LIDO 2. I'm surprised that Sam and his crew's blind tasting found the Niche holding its own compared to an aligned EK43 and Kafatek Monolith Conical. I may have a chance to compare my Niche to LDT's Monolith. Sam had several months to wear his in, so for now, I'm feeding coffee through my Niche, since the company recommends not using anything else to wear in the burrs.


Just in case we confused anyone into thinking that our tests can give broader insight than they do ... I think that our results stand for the proposition that with lightish and darkish standard espresso roasts, for espresso extraction, the difference was small, when compared with an EK43 that I had aligned with the marker method and the stock 2015ish "coffee" burrs. I don't think that we really generated any useful information about Niche vs EK43 in the filter or cupping realm, since we used the light espresso roast for that and it wasn't really light enough to make especially pleasant cups (this was my bad - I suggested it - sorry) and our palates were a bit shot, so, whilst there weren't really clear winners there, everything kind of sucked. I don't think that that's a data set that's worth drawing any inferences from. If all of the cups were great, then that might be informative.

I'm sure that we would all have liked to have been even more thorough, but I think we were kind of struck by the enormity of the task. There are only so many hours in a day and so much coffee that can be tasted before palate fatigue sets in! The espresso results basically took us a morning of testing out different coffees and getting things dialled in and set up (we had to eliminate some commercial espresso blends that weren't good enough to be worth testing) and then an afternoon of actually pulling the shots and tasting.

Cheers,
Luca
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