Ceado grinding always same size - Page 2
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ErDi
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Thanks for the help guys.
After deep cleaning of the burrs and calibrating it, I was able to get some good grinds at just under 1. Zero was set when I heard the screechy burr touching noise.
One thing I noticed though was that at 0.5 there was no grinds coming down the chute, is this normal? It only started coming out at around 0.8!
After deep cleaning of the burrs and calibrating it, I was able to get some good grinds at just under 1. Zero was set when I heard the screechy burr touching noise.
One thing I noticed though was that at 0.5 there was no grinds coming down the chute, is this normal? It only started coming out at around 0.8!
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leonelbego (original poster)
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glad to hear you are starting to get better results.
No, thats not normal, it should grind at that level... make sure that always when you go from coarse to fine to make those adjustments while the burrs are running, like this you avoid the burrs clamping together.
Maybe try to do this: with the grinder not running, go coarse to more or less 2 or 2.5... then start the grinder and while is running move slowly again to 0.8 or 0.5 and then stop, put some beans inside and try to grind, see is now works
also, are your beans super super light roasted?
let me know.
No, thats not normal, it should grind at that level... make sure that always when you go from coarse to fine to make those adjustments while the burrs are running, like this you avoid the burrs clamping together.
Maybe try to do this: with the grinder not running, go coarse to more or less 2 or 2.5... then start the grinder and while is running move slowly again to 0.8 or 0.5 and then stop, put some beans inside and try to grind, see is now works
also, are your beans super super light roasted? let me know.
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leonelbego (original poster)
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ErDi wrote:Thanks for the help guys.
After deep cleaning of the burrs and calibrating it, I was able to get some good grinds at just under 1. Zero was set when I heard the screechy burr touching noise.
One thing I noticed though was that at 0.5 there was no grinds coming down the chute, is this normal? It only started coming out at around 0.8!
oh one more thing, if you do my test and still at 0.8 or 0.5 is not grinding, then you calibrated wrongly, maybe you went below your point zero and thats why is not coming anything out at 0.5 or so.
just to make sure, your point Zero is not when you hear the burrs making that super loud noise... when you hear that loud noise then go a little bit coarser until you dont hear that loud metallic noise, THATS your zero point.
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ErDi
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Hi Leo,
So I took a video ad I want to make sure I am calibrating it properly.
I hear a light change of sound around 0.5 and then I hear actual screechy sound at my zero point.
When do the blades actually touch and where should be my starting point?
[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUnYWC_M3pc[/youtube]
So I took a video ad I want to make sure I am calibrating it properly.
I hear a light change of sound around 0.5 and then I hear actual screechy sound at my zero point.
When do the blades actually touch and where should be my starting point?
[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUnYWC_M3pc[/youtube]
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leonelbego (original poster)
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Thanks for the video. That helps a lot.ErDi wrote:Hi Leo,
So I took a video ad I want to make sure I am calibrating it properly.
I hear a light change of sound around 0.5 and then I hear actual screechy sound at my zero point.
When do the blades actually touch and where should be my starting point?
[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUnYWC_M3pc[/youtube]
So I think your point zero would be exactly at 0.5. Move the metal sign that your zero number is where now is your 0.5 if you know what I mean. Look picture attached, there should be your sign with Zero! That's the reason it wasn't grinding at 0.5 or so
When you moved the metal sign to the "new" zero point, then I think you are ready to dial in... I would start trying with 1 and from the move to what's best.
Let me know how it goes
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ErDi
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Weird enough I came back home later and re-tried the calibration going from 2-2.5 down to hearing the burrs touch and funny enough after 4 tries I wasn't hearing any noise until I got to zero.
Only that time I posted the video I heard a lighter noise at 0.5 and then the bigger noise at zero.
Anyhow, I started at one and landed at 0.5 with my Guatemala Huehuetenango medium roast beans.
The toaster told me he goes pretty fine with these beans almost Turkish coffee grind size.
Let's hope nothing goes wrong now. But I am still surprised that i got the burr sound once at 0.5 and then it didn't happen again.
Thanks again Leo.
Only that time I posted the video I heard a lighter noise at 0.5 and then the bigger noise at zero.
Anyhow, I started at one and landed at 0.5 with my Guatemala Huehuetenango medium roast beans.
The toaster told me he goes pretty fine with these beans almost Turkish coffee grind size.
Let's hope nothing goes wrong now. But I am still surprised that i got the burr sound once at 0.5 and then it didn't happen again.
Thanks again Leo.
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ErDi
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Finally back into my flows and nice strippings
Used my old Comandante c40 Red Clix, Londinium distribution tool, Asso Leveler and Big Step Pullman. All made possible by LM GS3 MP.
[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FobDeywp834[/youtube]
My Ceado E37SD is in for servicing and will find out what the issue was. My supplier said it might be burr alignment problems.
Thank you guys for your help.
LA
Used my old Comandante c40 Red Clix, Londinium distribution tool, Asso Leveler and Big Step Pullman. All made possible by LM GS3 MP.
[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FobDeywp834[/youtube]
My Ceado E37SD is in for servicing and will find out what the issue was. My supplier said it might be burr alignment problems.
Thank you guys for your help.
LA
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leonelbego (original poster)
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ErDi wrote:Finally back into my flows and nice strippings
Used my old Comandante c40 Red Clix, Londinium distribution tool, Asso Leveler and Big Step Pullman. All made possible by LM GS3 MP.
[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FobDeywp834[/youtube]
My Ceado E37SD is in for servicing and will find out what the issue was. My supplier said it might be burr alignment problems.
Thank you guys for your help.
LA
Good luck with the service. Lets us know what the issue was
That shot in your video looked very tasty!!!
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ErDi
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So...
I am now driving home from the supplier with a new MAHLKÖNIG Peak.
After 2 hours of testing the grinds of lighter roasted beans in 3 Ceado E37SDs and pulling shots with the Slayer and Synesso the technicians were shocked to see that the grinds from Ceado even at almost 0.2 setting were not fine enough to pull a good espresso flow. The machines were not going past 4-5 bars and blonding/fast flow was happening right at 2 seconds.
They said that probably at this light of a roast Ceado doesn't do a good job at distributing the grinds...
In the end they did the same test with the lightly roasted beans from Ikawa with MAHLKÖNIG peak and we got a perfect shot every time.
I would be interested to see if anyone else has encountered this issue or if they can test the same and let me know your findings. I have attached also my home testing videos which resulted in me ending up at the supplier and returning the Ceado E37SD and getting the Peak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2zO7iG5Hzk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWaNFljXKCM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaYvd7QsYzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxeD8gYD71w
See below my Ikawa roasted beans (Honduras La Concepcion); roasted based on their profile:
LA
I am now driving home from the supplier with a new MAHLKÖNIG Peak.
After 2 hours of testing the grinds of lighter roasted beans in 3 Ceado E37SDs and pulling shots with the Slayer and Synesso the technicians were shocked to see that the grinds from Ceado even at almost 0.2 setting were not fine enough to pull a good espresso flow. The machines were not going past 4-5 bars and blonding/fast flow was happening right at 2 seconds.
They said that probably at this light of a roast Ceado doesn't do a good job at distributing the grinds...
In the end they did the same test with the lightly roasted beans from Ikawa with MAHLKÖNIG peak and we got a perfect shot every time.
I would be interested to see if anyone else has encountered this issue or if they can test the same and let me know your findings. I have attached also my home testing videos which resulted in me ending up at the supplier and returning the Ceado E37SD and getting the Peak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2zO7iG5Hzk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWaNFljXKCM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaYvd7QsYzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxeD8gYD71w
See below my Ikawa roasted beans (Honduras La Concepcion); roasted based on their profile:
LA
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leonelbego (original poster)
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ErDi wrote:So...
I am now driving home from the supplier with a new MAHLKÖNIG Peak.
After 2 hours of testing the grinds of lighter roasted beans in 3 Ceado E37SDs and pulling shots with the Slayer and Synesso the technicians were shocked to see that the grinds from Ceado even at almost 0.2 setting were not fine enough to pull a good espresso flow. The machines were not going past 4-5 bars and blonding/fast flow was happening right at 2 seconds.
They said that probably at this light of a roast Ceado doesn't do a good job at distributing the grinds...
In the end they did the same test with the lightly roasted beans from Ikawa with MAHLKÖNIG peak and we got a perfect shot every time.
I would be interested to see if anyone else has encountered this issue or if they can test the same and let me know your findings. I have attached also my home testing videos which resulted in me ending up at the supplier and returning the Ceado E37SD and getting the Peak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2zO7iG5Hzk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWaNFljXKCM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaYvd7QsYzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxeD8gYD71w
See below my Ikawa roasted beans (Honduras La Concepcion); roasted based on their profile:
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LA
I have no words! Very very strange that the Ceado at such a low fine setting the extractions were coming that fast... were those videos made after you recalibrated the grinder? Crazy stuff!
Congrats on the PEAK
