2 Group Gaggia Tell Restoration - Page 4

Equipment doesn't work? Troubleshooting? If you're handy, members can help.
OldNuc

#31: Post by OldNuc » May 15, 2019, 10:02 am

The secret to getting stuck handles to unscrew is Kroil and a good heat gun. Heat it up and drip Kroil on the joint and wait 24 hours. Pipe wrench is forbidden tool. If it does not unscrew rinse and repeat as it may take multiple tries to get it to come loose.

Cheap functional heat gun: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078S ... UTF8&psc=1

Best bet is to completely disassemble and soak in AUTOSOL Metal Wash this is a British product so should be easy to find. It will not strip off the chrome or nickle plate but be careful with paint.

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IamOiman

#32: Post by IamOiman » May 24, 2019, 9:22 am

So this is what €157 will get you from my parts distributor (more or less). I got two original piston racks, a spring (the only one they had on them), boiler gaskets, teflon heating element gaskets, water valve gaskets, and original brass shimmies. I was etstatic at meeting this man, Franco, and I personally asked him if I could send other HB-ers his way and he was ok with it. If you pm me for his contact, I will be giving you my Italian number (but my US number in July) so he remembers who I am when you say how you found him. He has everything from heating elements to the piston for Faema and Gaggia. YOU MUST CONTACT HIM WITH WATSAPP. He will not respond in any other form of contact.

Other parts I will need I can access elesewhere for not much more than what he charges, but I may go back one more time for things like the teflon group-boiler gasket. I cannot understate how helpful Franco was, and is willing to work with you through the process. As an aside, I also cannot understate how helpful my Italian skills have been when conducting espresso business in Italy.

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I also managed to take off my groups after some effort. The bolts for the machine look fine but will inspect them more closely when I do a full dissasembly. Without the portafilter one group weighs a massive 23 pounds!

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OldNuc

#33: Post by OldNuc » May 24, 2019, 7:38 pm

Nice set of critical supplies. :)

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IamOiman

#34: Post by IamOiman » Jun 12, 2019, 10:46 am

Got some more parts today from Nuova Ricambi through their distributor Caffericambi. I found this compay from Francesco Ceccarelli and his 1 group Faema President restore page. At this point for the Tell the only parts I will need to purchase is group related (new shimmies and gaskets), which will likely be done with Cafelat or Brooks Espresso. I also purchased a few parts for my Faema President as I already know I will need them (shower screens and piston gaskets).

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One of the more difficult gaskets to source (in my experience) was the gasket between the water valve and the connection to a copper pipe. Many of the retail espresso parts stores like coffeeparts and espressoparts do not seem to have this gasket in stock. Caffericambi sold them for €0.85 each!

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-Ryan
I'll throw my portafilter in the ring
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OldNuc

#35: Post by OldNuc » Jun 12, 2019, 1:42 pm

Buying a set of gasket punches and appropriate sheet goods from your local industrial supply provides a source for those old gaskets made out of unobtianablum.

Looks like Christmas has come early.

Cafelat is a very good source for those vintage parts.

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IamOiman

#36: Post by IamOiman » Jul 23, 2019, 1:35 pm

After nearly half a year of searching I have made the unobtainium obtainium. A complete 2 group Gaggia LL drip tray assembly with the drain cup. This would only have happened through two things: I contacted Doctor Espresso (Russel Kerr) directly and he kindly pointed me to a seller who had it. The second part of the key was my Italian Bar friend Manuel, who will let me use his address to receive the package as the seller only ships in the EU, and then finally it will be sent to me! The price I paid for was totally worth it (though will likely slightly be more than what I paid for the whole machine with shipping costs).

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I'll throw my portafilter in the ring
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OldNuc

#37: Post by OldNuc » Jul 23, 2019, 2:34 pm

That will make the difference between a hack job tray in an otherwise completely restored machine. Great find and good to have a backup EU address.

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IamOiman

#38: Post by IamOiman » replying to OldNuc » Jul 23, 2019, 3:08 pm

Indeed. I know Gary will praise his drip tray fashioning skills for his Prestina but if I had the choice I would stick with the original :lol:

Maybe if I had a physical drip tray from someone else I would create a copy from that
-Ryan
I'll throw my portafilter in the ring
LMWDP #612

OldNuc

#39: Post by OldNuc » Jul 23, 2019, 11:11 pm

Making copies of an original stamped part is not a trivial task if you wan the OEM look and feel. Even a battered original is easier to clean up and weld up missing ears etc than make a new one.

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IamOiman

#40: Post by IamOiman » Aug 10, 2019, 9:45 pm

I can only imagine...

I got the drip tray today! I also ordered some copper pipes from the same seller as my capillary tube for the manometer in the Faema President was snipped. The seller happened to have a spare one that costed me literally 1/20 the price of a new one plus a mix of other boiler pipes!

But now is the important part: the drip tray fits and is perfect for my machine :D
I was in the process of disassembling the Gaggia again but could not resist putting on the tray...
I have a crate being used to organize the parts as I strip the frame of everything. I am waiting on some PB blaster to do its magic on some fittings before I proceed further.
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-Ryan
I'll throw my portafilter in the ring
LMWDP #612