Randy G. wrote:*Manual three way solenoid valve allows back to back espresso extractions
- That is an odd way to say that. A solenoid is normally an electromagnetic device. It appears to be a standard E-61 manual group with manual exhaust valve as in other such E-61s.

Sorry, I wrote this one very fast. Now corrected.

At 31 lbs this machine's weight is pretty close to that of a Rancilio Silvia. This seems a bit light to me for a E61 HX machine, is there any plastic involved? How is parts back-up/inventory? How is accessibility for repairs/service?

Caferetro

Caferetro,

Sorry, we made a mistake. I just weighed the machine with portafilter, drip tray, and accessories at about 38-39 pounds. The Silvia, I believe, is less than 30 pounds physically, and more than 30 when you include all the packaging and outer carton. As stated on our web site, the two side panels are plastic.

Since repair persons mostly ask about parts and accessibility, I would be interested if you work for someone in the industry or have in the past. If yes, please advise who? To answer your question, common parts are in stock. Accessibility is in the eyes of the beholder and based on a person's technical aptitude, tools in chest, and possible relative experience.

Hi Jim,
I looked on the factory website for the USA - they show two models 006 & 007. 006 has an all stainless chassis and the 007 has an iron frame and ABS plastic sides. If some one buys one of these and later on decides they want stainless steel sides can the machine you off be upgraded?

http://www.lanuovaerausa.com/cuadra.htm

Hi Jim,
I looked on the factory website for the USA - they show two models 006 & 007. 006 has an all stainless chassis and the 007 has an iron frame and ABS plastic sides. If some one buys one of these and later on decides they want stainless steel sides can the machine you off be upgraded?

http://www.lanuovaerausa.com/cuadra.htm

Eric,

Please understand chassis is the underlying frame. The machine I just checked had a stainless steel chassis. All their Cuadra machines have plastic body panels. I believe if metal ones were made, the cost would skyrocket at the spacing around the front switch and boiler pressure gauge would be very time consuming to manufacture.

In addition, I have had a Cuadra in my house for the last 6 months. It has performed very well for those 1-2 cups and also when I brought it to espresso cater some parties. The only downside on the catering is that the plastic can be become scratched easily if one is not careful.

I'm sure this is not news to everyone. La Pavoni sold (may still be selling) this same machine, but with red sides, for $1600-1800. It was branded La Pavoni - Cuadra if I remember correctly

This is correct.

Jim,
Thanks for clarifying the weights. Certainly a difference.
No I don't work in the coffee industry in any shape or form. I did work in the automotive industry before retirement, maintaining a fleet of 200 vehicles. Accessibility of maintenance areas and parts availability are always the 1st thing I ask about regarding anything mechanical. Just habit I guess.

Thanks, Caferetro

1st-line wrote:Caferetro,

Sorry, we made a mistake. I just weighed the machine with portafilter, drip tray, and accessories at about 38-39 pounds. The Silvia, I believe, is less than 30 pounds physically, and more than 30 when you include all the packaging and outer carton. As stated on our web site, the two side panels are plastic.

Since repair persons mostly ask about parts and accessibility, I would be interested if you work for someone in the industry or have in the past. If yes, please advise who? To answer your question, common parts are in stock. Accessibility is in the eyes of the beholder and based on a person's technical aptitude, tools in chest, and possible relative experience.

Will this machine do pre-infusion like the Giotto?

Looks like a standard E61 group with expansion chamber, same as the ECM Giotto, so I'd say yes. See E61 Group Espresso Machine: Is its reputation justified? for the longer explanation.