User Experience with the Argos lever espresso machine

#1: Post by **MASONMAN** » July 18th, 2023, 6:38 pm

Odyssey Espresso Argos finally arrived! I'll write more as I get used to the new machine but initial impression is even better than hoped! This has been an almost 2 year wait (August '21). Fit and finish are top notch. Very well thought out. Pleasantly surprised as I was expecting it to be a little rough around the edges for a completely new product. Only pulled three shots so far and all have been very good. I need to fine tune my prep as I am used to a La Pavoni with smaller diameter basket. The footprint /size of the machine is smaller than expected (in a good way) and feels very solid. See pics compared to La Pavoni. Excited to begin this journey with a brand new machine.

Moderator note: Split from Announced: Argos lever espresso machine by Odyssey Espresso

#2: Post by **TenLayers** » July 18th, 2023, 6:53 pm

You're number 1!!!

#3: Post by **bgn** » July 18th, 2023, 11:43 pm

Wow! Finally!! Glad the first impressions are positive. Hope to be here myself by Christmas (2023).

#4: Post by **davidhunternyc** » July 19th, 2023, 12:12 am

Very exciting. The Argos is THE most anticipated espresso machine of 2023. I can't wait to read the reviews and watch videos as they start rolling in. Time to get the popcorn!

#5: Post by **Juju** » July 19th, 2023, 3:34 am

Awesome, beautiful machine! Looking forward to your comparison with the Pavoni as these two machines are also my current and future setup

#6: Post by **neydor** » July 19th, 2023, 9:14 am

On the third pic, is the dial on the boiler cap showing water residues (foggy)?

#7: Post by **spressomon** » July 19th, 2023, 9:14 am

Couple questions:
Are back-to-back shots possible or how long between shots must you wait for the group to "cool down"?

Same question after steaming: How long of a wait after steaming until the group is cooled down and ready to make espresso?

Lastly, is the lever easily disconnected (for mobile/travel carry)?

Thanks in advance!

#8: Post by **travis_rh** » July 20th, 2023, 5:44 pm

spressomon wrote:Couple questions:
Are back-to-back shots possible or how long between shots must you wait for the group to "cool down"?

Same question after steaming: How long of a wait after steaming until the group is cooled down and ready to make espresso?

If I'm remembering correctly, I thought Ross mentioned at some point, somewhere, that it was capable of 5 shots. Maybe that was simply before needing a refill. I'll try to dig through update emails and whatnot to see whether I can clarify that.

Edit:
In a recent update email he mentioned, "We ensure the peak temperature of 4 shots in a row all lies within 2C of the set temperature. This accuracy is achieved with what we call a "perfect pull" where all of the air is bled out of the air release valve in the piston as explained in our unboxing video."

#9: Post by **davidhunternyc** » July 20th, 2023, 5:57 pm

spressomon wrote:Couple questions:
Are back-to-back shots possible or how long between shots must you wait for the group to "cool down"?

This is the million dollar question. Is the grouphead temp stabilized for back-to-back shots? If it is, the Argos could be an Olympia Cremina killer.

#10: Post by **Jeff** » July 20th, 2023, 6:10 pm

The shot temperature is stabilized, as I understand it. At least as I think of the control system, when the group head is cooler, the boiler temperature is higher, and vice versa. Within reason, I don't care what temperature the group head is running, just what is happening in the basket.