User Experience: Flair Espresso Manual Lever - Page 102

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madrian

#1011: Post by madrian »

In meantime I oldered some silicone caps from Aliexpress, we will see how it fits. 8)

Mattthev

#1012: Post by Mattthev »

I was looking for the same silicone lid. I don't have Flair yet, I can't still decide what to buy, Classic with pressure gauge or PRO 2. Here in Europe harder to find both, they are more expensive. EU Amazons don't deliver Flairs to my home address and Amazon.com is with all the taxes and shipping even more expensive than buying from reseller in Germany, also PRO 2 is not listed on Amazon.com or I can't find it...
Where did you buy it guys from EU?

I like much more italian style espresso from only 7g of coffee or 10g max. Is it possible to brew good espresso with PRO 2 using 10g of coffee? Classic should be fine with 12g so the 10g might be good enough if I grind finer? I saw some of the silicone DIY portafilter fillers, but I don't like the idea...

This silicone bowl might fit?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32859417626.html
I don't know what are the dimmensions, but I've read the chamber should have 55mm? So this should fit, but pretty expensive for this kind of stuff.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33045934313.html

Also any tips to brew 2 cups at once? I was thinking of attaching double spout from spare parts that are sold online for Gaggia or smething like that
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Thank you for any answer.

SunSurfH2o

#1013: Post by SunSurfH2o »

Mattthev wrote: I like much more italian style espresso from only 7g of coffee or 10g max. Is it possible to brew good espresso with PRO 2 using 10g of coffee? Classic should be fine with 12g so the 10g might be good enough if I grind finer? I saw some of the silicone DIY portafilter fillers, but I don't like the idea...
to pull shots with low doses on PRO you would need a custom made tamper for the smaller 42.6 mm diameter that basket tapers down to. perhaps a 3D printed double sided tamper 45.5mm one side and 42.3mm on the other would be good way to go.
--Andrew

madrian

#1014: Post by madrian »

Mattthev wrote:I was looking for the same silicone lid. I don't have Flair yet, I can't still decide what to buy, Classic with pressure gauge or PRO 2. Here in Europe harder to find both, they are more expensive. EU Amazons don't deliver Flairs to my home address and Amazon.com is with all the taxes and shipping even more expensive than buying from reseller in Germany, also PRO 2 is not listed on Amazon.com or I can't find it...
Where did you buy it guys from EU?

I like much more italian style espresso from only 7g of coffee or 10g max. Is it possible to brew good espresso with PRO 2 using 10g of coffee? Classic should be fine with 12g so the 10g might be good enough if I grind finer? I saw some of the silicone DIY portafilter fillers, but I don't like the idea...

This silicone bowl might fit?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32859417626.html
I don't know what are the dimmensions, but I've read the chamber should have 55mm? So this should fit, but pretty expensive for this kind of stuff.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33045934313.html

Also any tips to brew 2 cups at once? I was thinking of attaching double spout from spare parts that are sold online for Gaggia or smething like that
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Thank you for any answer.
Personally I suggest you to get the Classic one. Very simple design, it's very easy to pre-heat, especially if you have the pressure gauge (then you have two pistons and you can use the non-pressure piston in the preheat process - plug it in, turn upside down add hot water bumm, done.). If you buy the Pro, you must preheat every part of the Flair, much more work and the result is not better by all means.

I suggest you to buy the Classic and get nakedportafilter version of the pressure gauge:

https://www.naked-portafilter.com/produ ... ssure-kit/

This is also a better design than the original which comes with the Flair. They designed the pressure kit for Flair for Classic, but in the final manufacturing Flair decided to move seals close together, but in this way piston can go inside the chamber angled. This newer happens with this version. Bonus: you don't need to preheat pressure kit, because it's made from food safe plastic. Bonus 2: you get an exclusive naked gauge, sexy as hell. :oops:

They have some Flair kits available, drop them an email, he is from Hungary so EU shipping should be not a problem.

This french webshop also ships in the EU:

https://www.maxicoffee.com/machine-expr ... 2059.html
Before christmas I was bought from amazon.de:

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06X91 ... TF8&psc=1

but it was on sale and was much cheaper:

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My best advice is to contact naked-portafilter.com, so you get everything from one place and their support is amazing.

Mattthev

#1015: Post by Mattthev » replying to madrian »

Wow, thanks for all the info!
I didn't know that Maxicoffee.com has EU delivery, I was on their UK website and shipping was specified only for UK and Ireland. The French one has delivery to CZ. Too bad I can't buy from Amazon.de also, well I can but I need to use some service for Germany address and then delivery to CZ. Only Amazon.com let me order to my home address, but the price is a lot higher than on Amazon.de with German address delivery.

That was really good catch at 144 EUR with all fees. Nice!

I found this https://www.brewcompany.de/FLAIR a bit overpriced, but still cheaper than Amazon.com for me. I wrote to Naked-portafilter.com if it's possible to get Flair Classic and their pressure kit, hope the price will be good. Pressure kit alone with VAT and shipping costs is 100 USD for me.

madrian

#1016: Post by madrian »

Yeah, I used mcposta.cz to help with delivery to my address, because Amazon.de does not ship to SVK.

Wait for the response from Gabor, he had some units available for a special price. He had advertised some kits (classic plus, pro) on a Hungarian forum, but maybe he has some more available.

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bobpaule

#1017: Post by bobpaule »

KISS principle applies to FLAIR also. Since this is a travel machine I stick to basics, why add
a pressure gauge to complicate the setup?

This is with hotel water at my son's soccer tournament, to create some balance to the semi-inebriated
daddies cruising the hotel lobby distributing beer to friends and acquaintances the night before.
Club soccer is a fun activity.

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Never get between a man and his ristretto, ever!

Mattthev

#1018: Post by Mattthev »

They sell Flair on Aliexpress
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000262490546.html
And it has EU plug type :lol: :lol:

madrian

#1019: Post by madrian »

If anyone interested...a puck shooter for Flair Classic. :P

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4123094

vit

#1020: Post by vit »

No, thanks. My lungs are still up to the task ...