Ponte Vecchio Lusso 1 at 13 years

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OperaTorte

#1: Post by OperaTorte »

Greetings Level Lovers,

My Lusso 1 may be approaching relic-mode. I've replaced various parts and tightened various fittings over the years, but it started leaking in a major way.... puddling around some wires and dripping onto the counter. I removed the case and saw the leak emerging from the heating element gasket, though there was lime scale around the thermostat, as well.
Lusso 1 IMG_8241.HEIC
Lusso 1 Thermostat and heating element IMG_8244.HEIC

So, I could get a new heating element/gasket from 1st-Line or the excellent Italian parts shop --https://www.lamacchinadelcaffe.com/en/pontevecchio.html -- and get some more time out of it, but back in 2009 someone wrote about a seam opening in the boiler (I've notice a seam, too, but it isn't all the way through yet; la Macchina del Caffe has boilers!!! for 300E). Anyway, wondering if it is time for a new Lusso, or something different.

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Jeff
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#2: Post by Jeff »

One of the machines I continue to enjoy is a late 50s Arrarex. I looks like something around 100€ and you'll have your machine running again. A steam boiler can probably be re-braised by a local metal shop should it fail. Dealing with a 1-2 bar steam boiler is easier than 9 bars in a brew boiler.

If you want something different, then it would be a different question for me.

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peacecup

#3: Post by peacecup »

I have a Sama that is twice as old and the boiler is fine. So unless there has been corrosion it should last much longer
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OperaTorte (original poster)

#4: Post by OperaTorte (original poster) »

After cleaning away the funny looking deposits and getting the new heating element nice and tight (no drips), I found a pinhole directly under the element. As an old boss used to say, "If it ain't one thing, it's another." The plan was sound enough....keep the Lusso working for a few more months until I could try out alternatives. Hopefully my backup--an old Isomec Venus, will last.

I'm saddened that PV seems to have vanished from the US market. It is a splendid little machine that does many things better than many others.

vacrad49

#5: Post by vacrad49 »

Ponte Vecchio, the lever machine that punches well above its weight and size. I have a PV Export sitting next to my R24, both of which are used daily, and both produce delightful espressos. I always finish the morning with a final espresso produced on the PV Export.

I am continually disheartened as I learn how few people are even aware of Ponte Vecchio lever machines, a pity for them while we "the few true believers" understand the quality of fine espresso dropped into our little espresso cups. Ciao.

vacrad49

#6: Post by vacrad49 »


Ponte Vecchio, the lever machine that punches well above its weight and size. I have a PV Export sitting next to my R24, both of which are used daily, and both produce delightful espressos. I always finish the morning with a final espresso produced on the PV Export.

I am continually disheartened as I learn how few people are even aware of Ponte Vecchio lever machines, a pity for them while we "the few true believers" understand the quality of fine espresso dropped into our little espresso cups.

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espressotime

#7: Post by espressotime replying to vacrad49 »

Great little machines.


NicoNYC

#8: Post by NicoNYC »

OperaTorte wrote:After cleaning away the funny looking deposits and getting the new heating element nice and tight (no drips), I found a pinhole directly under the element.
Sorry to hear this, but don't write off your Lusso - or its boiler - quite yet. Silver soldering is well within the realm of a hobbyist, and you can buy the solder, flux, and a MAPP torch and tank for about $100.

I've never used a Ponte Vecchio or SAMA, but it seems like that owner raves about the quality of the coffee they produce.
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baldheadracing
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#9: Post by baldheadracing »

OperaTorte wrote:After cleaning away the funny looking deposits and getting the new heating element nice and tight (no drips), I found a pinhole directly under the element. As an old boss used to say, "If it ain't one thing, it's another." The plan was sound enough....keep the Lusso working for a few more months until I could try out alternatives. Hopefully my backup--an old Isomec Venus, will last.
In addition to the soldering and brazing solutions: Depending on the size/type of pinhole, the Loctite 290 Green that is used to plug Cremina boiler pinholes may work. It has worked for me. How to use Loctite 290 to fix a pin hole leak
OperaTorte wrote:I'm saddened that PV seems to have vanished from the US market. It is a splendid little machine that does many things better than many others.
1st-line.com is still the distributor AFAIK.
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