Ponte Vecchio Export - Page 2

May 27th, 2023, 6:31 am

Tjyven wrote:Thanks! Maybe OT in this thread but isnt the Lusso a thermosyphon or am I misinformed?

To my knowledge they're all dippers.

#12: Post by **baldheadracing** » May 27th, 2023, 6:35 am

The Lusso uses a thermosyphon - Ponte Vecchio Lusso Review

May 27th, 2023, 6:44 am

Wow.I did not know that.Great stuff.

May 27th, 2023, 6:56 am

I don't think that it has a cold-fed HX, though. I remember reading somewhere that the thermosyphon is circulating boiler water but I can't find the reference.

I do remember that the two-group version of the Lusso uses one thermosyphon - the two groups are bolted to a manifold which the thermosyphon is attached to.

#15: Post by **peacecup** » May 27th, 2023, 11:38 am

Lusso is a thermosyphon. A very nice daily driver with the same espresso quality as the Export.

#16: Post by **peacecup** » May 27th, 2023, 11:44 am

Yes it just circulates boiler water with no hx. Very temp stable though, well designed for its purpose

May 27th, 2023, 1:21 pm

Thanks for confirming.

I think that 'Club' machines are a perfect size for many folks. I wish my Oly Club had a similar thermosyphon setup as the Lusso. (The Oly is a dipper so it takes a good 3/4 hour to warm-up - a thermosyphon would probably cut that time in half.)

May 28th, 2023, 7:31 am

The Export is a dipper too and takes 10 minutes.

#19: Post by **MCal2003** » May 29th, 2023, 12:21 pm

Have a 2 group PVL. Assuming outside of a larger frame and 2nd group the design is the same. Thermosyphon group heads. PV's fit and finish on this specific machine is a bit lacking. Overall design looks to be an afterthought. Tried to squeeze two groupheads, water wand, steam wand, gauge onto too small a footprint. Also, no anti-vacuume valve. The good is you can pull shots as fast as you can dose, tamp, and lock. Like the Export. Heavy crema. Export is the "better" value.

#20: Post by **RTM** » May 29th, 2023, 4:38 pm

I have a Sama export, with some TLC it's a wonderful machine!!
I am no barista, but I've gotten to the point where I prefer my coffee over most

I usually dose 16-17g, if I underdose I get a divot in the puck and a runny second pull, but dosed right it comes out great!

what dose are you using?