...and from Roast Mag's n/l this a.m. Oh, such beauty...

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espressotime wrote:Piston seal replacement takes 10 minutes. You can't go 10 minutes without coffee every 10 years or so?

There is no way you can replace seals, heat the group up to a stable temperature in much less than an hour. And if you have a thermosyphon like mine it is also common for a slight air bubble to cause a stall. So the next morning your group may be cold. It is pretty nice having the other group ready to go.

espressotime wrote:Still don see the advantage of atwo group machine unless you regularly have 6 people at the same time wanting coffee.

I wouldn't say regularly have the need for high volume. IF even on occasion you have a small crowd it is an advantage. It is your call if the advantage outweighs the added service and size.

Ok.

EddyQ wrote:There is no way you can replace seals, heat the group up to a stable temperature in much less than an hour. And if you have a thermosyphon like mine it is also common for a slight air bubble to cause a stall. So the next morning your group may be cold. It is pretty nice having the other group ready to go.

All true if you have a bar and can't miss the machine for an hour.

I'm currently waiting on mine three group version of this machine.With all the custom stuff I wanted,I paid about 19K € for it so yeah it's pretty pricy.And from what I know there will not be 1 group version of it.Only 2 and 3 group version is available.

I will buy speedster again with lever group.

That's not going to happen. Kees said the Speedster tips easily with the lever group due to the leg design & lack of weight at the rear.

Thank you for clarifying that.