Commercial lever machines
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So many things are lining up for me right now that this part-time coffee truck business is going to get the green light.
I have been mostly looking at vintage machines but my friend can also get dealer prices for Wega machines. So now I am checking out this Wega Vela Vintage but know nothing about Wega. To be honest, I don't know much about most of these machines as I stopped upgrading once I got my Vam Caravel years ago as I have been, and still am, 100% satisfied with little miss caravel. She will continue to stay at home as my daily driver. So now I need a 3 or 4 group commercial lever that doesn't mind sitting in the back of a panel van and being driven around hitting the occasional bump in the road. Preferably gas heated but not necessary. It can be turned off and sit for a few weeks at a time. AND, its got to look cool, and vintage. And its gotta play well with Mahlkönig EK43.
I still might get a true vintage machine as it would match the Citröen HY I plan on getting as well.
I've seen some really cool commercial levers here on HB in the past but I never really paid attention (other than drooling at their beauty) as I didn't need one. Well, now I do. And now I need your help as to what would fit my situation the best. I would also like to hear about other people who own a coffee shop or truck.
Here is the Wega I can get for not very cheap. Does anyone know anything about it?
I have been mostly looking at vintage machines but my friend can also get dealer prices for Wega machines. So now I am checking out this Wega Vela Vintage but know nothing about Wega. To be honest, I don't know much about most of these machines as I stopped upgrading once I got my Vam Caravel years ago as I have been, and still am, 100% satisfied with little miss caravel. She will continue to stay at home as my daily driver. So now I need a 3 or 4 group commercial lever that doesn't mind sitting in the back of a panel van and being driven around hitting the occasional bump in the road. Preferably gas heated but not necessary. It can be turned off and sit for a few weeks at a time. AND, its got to look cool, and vintage. And its gotta play well with Mahlkönig EK43.
I still might get a true vintage machine as it would match the Citröen HY I plan on getting as well.
I've seen some really cool commercial levers here on HB in the past but I never really paid attention (other than drooling at their beauty) as I didn't need one. Well, now I do. And now I need your help as to what would fit my situation the best. I would also like to hear about other people who own a coffee shop or truck.
Here is the Wega I can get for not very cheap. Does anyone know anything about it?
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Can't help you with those machines.... but you might also want to have a look at Fracino Retro machines. Same group, available with gas/electrical heating.
Fracino is also the manufacturer of the Londinium machines. These however, come only with electrical heating but price wise might be an interesting option if you go that way.
Fracino is also the manufacturer of the Londinium machines. These however, come only with electrical heating but price wise might be an interesting option if you go that way.
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I have a 1980s 2 group commercial Brasilia. My concern with older machines would be replacement parts in a commercial setting. If you can buy seals, etc and have them on hand you may find a large older 3-4group as they are not that desired for commercial and too large for home (I am still getting grief for my 2group in a domestic kitchen). The gas power seems best, food carts with generators running (even the quietest generator) are not that pleasant, and powering a machine with batteries would require a lot of batteries.
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You could also buy a vintage Faema machine. The latest iteration of the Zodiaco group is still produced in Spain, so spare parts are not a problem.
Wega is a part of CMA, I suspect the group will be the same as Astoria.
The Londinium L3 P could also be considered. A beautiful machine.
Wega is a part of CMA, I suspect the group will be the same as Astoria.
The Londinium L3 P could also be considered. A beautiful machine.
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William, if you decide to go electric, you could channel Dritan Alsela with one of these:
http://www.vbmespresso.com/en/1961/repl ... -tech-spec
Although for reasons others have stated, a gas-fired machine could be a superior solution for your use case -- if your local regulatory authorities permit that.
http://www.vbmespresso.com/en/1961/repl ... -tech-spec
Although for reasons others have stated, a gas-fired machine could be a superior solution for your use case -- if your local regulatory authorities permit that.
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Dual fuel would be your best option. Batteries are out because of massive stored capacity required. Generators are probably out due to noise and fumes. The only possible option along these lines might be a modified Hybrid vehicle with a high capacity electrical outlet for the espresso setup that would automatically start the vehicle as required to 'quietly' recharge the battery.
Here's another link for 'Dual Fuel' levers with Bosco groups:
https://www.fracino.com/dualfuel.html
Here's another link for 'Dual Fuel' levers with Bosco groups:
https://www.fracino.com/dualfuel.html
"You didn't buy an Espresso Machine - You bought a Chemistry Set!"
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Many thanks for all the suggestions. The dual fuel or gas/electric options look the best. So far I have three confirmed locations where I can operate. Two of which I will be able to plug in. The third is catering for an event organiser which will be in random locations.
Sooo, some bad news. I was already looking at several Citröen HY vans when I contacted my uncle in law to get some buying advice considering he owns a Citroen garage and also collects classic Citroen cars. He told me stay far away from an HY. They may look cool on instagram and pinterest but they are an unreliable money hole that has no bottom. He said all our profits will go torwards the van.
So now we are looking at other options at the moment. We decided to not go for a Piaggio Ape as you are exposed to the elements and it wouldn't be much fun during winter. It looks like a trailer conversion is our best option to reduce costs.
Sooo, some bad news. I was already looking at several Citröen HY vans when I contacted my uncle in law to get some buying advice considering he owns a Citroen garage and also collects classic Citroen cars. He told me stay far away from an HY. They may look cool on instagram and pinterest but they are an unreliable money hole that has no bottom. He said all our profits will go torwards the van.
So now we are looking at other options at the moment. We decided to not go for a Piaggio Ape as you are exposed to the elements and it wouldn't be much fun during winter. It looks like a trailer conversion is our best option to reduce costs.
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An other commercial lever that can operate both electric or gas is the La Pavoni. I have a Diamante two groups coming to me on a boat as i wrote this They have many models in 2-3-4 groups, some that can work on dual fuel.
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