Cafelat Robot User Experience - Page 448
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Comments from users experienced with more machines are what keeps me grounded to a Robot. Sometimes I look elsewhere because it's hard to believe and hard to internalize that the Robot really can be so good.
The Cremina has always been a lustful desire of mine but reality checks like this keep the money in my pocket. As someone that pulls shots just for themselves and rarely steams anything besides barista oat milk, I always manage to quench GAS by simply enjoying my Robot more consciously again.
There's nothing like pulling a perfectly executed, hand made shot on the Robot while listening to a classic jazz album, or modern lo-fi, or whatever floats your boat, some Italian accordion music, I love it. The process makes me giddy, sometimes the music helps enhance my mood when the Robot begins to dull a little.
The Cremina has always been a lustful desire of mine but reality checks like this keep the money in my pocket. As someone that pulls shots just for themselves and rarely steams anything besides barista oat milk, I always manage to quench GAS by simply enjoying my Robot more consciously again.
There's nothing like pulling a perfectly executed, hand made shot on the Robot while listening to a classic jazz album, or modern lo-fi, or whatever floats your boat, some Italian accordion music, I love it. The process makes me giddy, sometimes the music helps enhance my mood when the Robot begins to dull a little.
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100% agree, well said. It's such a wonderful machine. Sometimes it's hard to believe it can be so good at such a value. Pairing my robot with my Pharos is probably the most capable setup money can buy from a value standpoint. Hard to not appreciate the simple designs and manual process.
Also a big fan of modern lo-fi/chill hop as well. Pulling some shots on the robot while listening to G-Mills, Gimlip & Yasper's Undertones, or Hanz really does it for me.
Also a big fan of modern lo-fi/chill hop as well. Pulling some shots on the robot while listening to G-Mills, Gimlip & Yasper's Undertones, or Hanz really does it for me.
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Thank you for sharing your experience, much appreciated.drH wrote:My second day pulling shots with the Robot and I'm more than surprised (perhaps shocked?) at how good it is.
I have a Cremina and a Maximatic and I wanted the Robot just to change up the routine and to have a faster morning workflow that didn't require heating up a machine.
What I didn't expect was to get shots that rival my other machines. I had an incredible Malabar Gold americano from the Robot this morning that tasted of pure chocolate covered nuts. I know the Cremina so well, and I'm better at fine tuning shots on that machine - but the robot has put the idea in my head - do I really want to have boilers and water filters and thermometers when I could simplify the whole routine and just have a Robot?
I'll keep practicing with it, but so far I'm highly impressed.
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I tried a Lagom but I really do like manual grinders. The Lagom was definitely better than my Kinu, I wish there was a series of manual grinders that could perform like Lagoms and Kafateks, I'd buy in an instant. There's perhaps one, but it doesn't sit right with me, the large Weber hand grinders. I don't know why I don't find them appealing.
Regardless, relative to machines, Robot is perfect. Simple as that, like I said, GAS is weird, it pops up but I never find anything as attractive as my Robot. Every time I consider a new machine I divert my attention to exploring new grinders and beans, which was the suggestion when I asked about "upgrading". I think because I'm slightly cheap and prefer to not buy tons of things, I will perhaps get a DF64 and call it a day...
Regardless, relative to machines, Robot is perfect. Simple as that, like I said, GAS is weird, it pops up but I never find anything as attractive as my Robot. Every time I consider a new machine I divert my attention to exploring new grinders and beans, which was the suggestion when I asked about "upgrading". I think because I'm slightly cheap and prefer to not buy tons of things, I will perhaps get a DF64 and call it a day...
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Just wondering what you did not like about the kinu?YeetSkeeterson wrote:The Lagom was definitely better than my Kinu
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The flavor profile is what I was referring to. I find it to be less clear and consistently more bitter. The Lagom was the first grinder that showed me clarity in espresso. It's hard to put into words but it's there.
I found that turbo shots were amazing for instance on the Lagom, but with my Kinu, 15g in 40g out, 15-20 seconds at 7 bars are often quite bitter. With the Kinu it seems I need longer pull times and higher pressures for some reason. This was after going back to it. Prior to using a Lagom I really don't recall the Kinu's taste very well. Ignorance is bliss, without knowing anything else everything was good.
But I can still pull good shots on the Kinu again, just took an adjustment period. Longer shots and higher pressure as well.
I found that turbo shots were amazing for instance on the Lagom, but with my Kinu, 15g in 40g out, 15-20 seconds at 7 bars are often quite bitter. With the Kinu it seems I need longer pull times and higher pressures for some reason. This was after going back to it. Prior to using a Lagom I really don't recall the Kinu's taste very well. Ignorance is bliss, without knowing anything else everything was good.
But I can still pull good shots on the Kinu again, just took an adjustment period. Longer shots and higher pressure as well.
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Thanks Brandon! The Kinu is the only grinder I have used.
Do you use the Comandante for espresso? How does that compare to the Kinu?
Do you use the Comandante for espresso? How does that compare to the Kinu?
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Wow, Robot users really think alike, jazz or lo-fi here tooYeetSkeeterson wrote:Comments from users experienced with more machines are what keeps me grounded to a Robot. Sometimes I look elsewhere because it's hard to believe and hard to internalize that the Robot really can be so good.
The Cremina has always been a lustful desire of mine but reality checks like this keep the money in my pocket. As someone that pulls shots just for themselves and rarely steams anything besides barista oat milk, I always manage to quench GAS by simply enjoying my Robot more consciously again.
There's nothing like pulling a perfectly executed, hand made shot on the Robot while listening to a classic jazz album, or modern lo-fi, or whatever floats your boat, some Italian accordion music, I love it. The process makes me giddy, sometimes the music helps enhance my mood when the Robot begins to dull a little.
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I always had sour-ish shots with the Comandante, the quality and extraction improved dramatically with my 64mm flat burrs grinder
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I am able to pull good tasting shots of light roast coffees on my C40. Most recently was Tim Wendelboe and Manhattan beans. Grinding by hand isn't the most fun but it's still capable.