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#21: Post by drgary »

John,

Is that yours? Can you show us a front view please? :mrgreen:

Mike and everyone:

The La San Marco company website has a tiny photo of the 42 and when you display it larger the subtitle is "1940." Their next photo is the Lollobrigida with the same groups as the 52 and the subtitle is "1950." Gaggia introduced their first commercial lever in 1947. The LSM machines seem to be successive model numbers, so 52 may not be the year. I wonder if your machine preceded the Lollo because its body is like the 1940's units.
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#22: Post by OldAndBigTr3E (original poster) »

Really nice pic. Do you know when it was built? And do you have a pic of the backside? :mrgreen: Thank you so much. I think you are right, I think mid to late 40s.
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#23: Post by TomC »

My guess is that it predates the Lollobrigida, by looks alone it fits late 40's, very early 50's designs more than the late 50's.

She's a beauty and I hope you share tons and tons of pictures. It's amazing to think something like that sat out in the weather in a scrap yard all this time.
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#24: Post by drgary »

I don't think any commercial spring lever predated the 1947 Gaggia, so it would be late 40's at the earliest.
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#25: Post by OldAndBigTr3E (original poster) »

So 49 or 50 most likely?
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#26: Post by Sansibar99 »

The picture of Seacoffee is from the Mumac Museum / Maltonis collection. Check the frontside on www.espressomadeinitaly.com

You might find a timestamp on the electrical heater (if there is one) or on the boiler plate, maybe even on the manometre. Someone might ask pootoogoo if he has infos, on when LSM patented its lever group...
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#27: Post by Sansibar99 »

I just checked the pictures in the first postings:
The boiler plate says "1950" bottom left corner...
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#28: Post by Seacoffee »

[quote="Sansibar99"]The picture of Seacoffee is from the Mumac Museum / Maltonis collection. Check the frontside on http://www.espressomadeinitaly.com

Yes indeed

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#29: Post by pootoogoo »

What a great find and a great source of information from different members.

I agree with TomC that this model precedes the Lollobrigida, since there is coexistence of versions with the new "gruppi a torchio" and the old "express group" on the same frames (the "Super" that is an evolution of the "Atlantica" model, and this "52" compared to the "42" version from the MUMAC).


[The Mocca cafe. Picture from Tošo Dabac, 1939 (thanks Mik !)]

To my opinion, this should be a 1950-1954 model (hence 52?), one of the very first produced by the Romanut brothers (Gio Batta and Francesco), since 1950 is the year they introduced their lever group (see the announce below from an Italian newspaper), and 1955 is the production year of the Lollobrigida.


[La Gazzetta del Mezzogiorno - May 18th, 1950]

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#30: Post by OldAndBigTr3E (original poster) »

Thank you for the info. I am going to try and get it home today and check for a specific date on it. Has 67 stamped on a lot of it's peices.
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