ACS Vesuvius Evo Leva - Consecutive shots and long shots

#1: Post by **macaber8** » November 28th, 2022, 1:22 pm

Hello Vesuvius Owners,

I got the quote today. While searching in the forums, there are a lot of complaints about temperature stability on lever machines in general. Is there testing done to demonstrate Vesuvius'a ability to do consecutive shots and long shots? How does it perform?

Any input is appreciated.

#2: Post by **Cuprajake** » November 28th, 2022, 5:21 pm

Well you can watch the temp of the group and both boilers to see how it recovers

By the time the next shot is prepped, the machine is ready to go again.

November 29th, 2022, 12:22 am

Cuprajake wrote:Well you can watch the temp of the group and both boilers to see how it recovers

By the time the next shot is prepped, the machine is ready to go again.

macaber8 wrote:Hello Vesuvius Owners,

I got the quote today. While searching in the forums, there are a lot of complaints about temperature stability on lever machines in general. Is there testing done to demonstrate Vesuvius'a ability to do consecutive shots and long shots? How does it perform?

Any input is appreciated.

My questions have been answered by thelevermag.com:
https://thelevermag.com/blogs/articles/ ... eva-review

This is fantastic. Now I need to read more reviews from them to see how other lever machines do.

#4: Post by **Cuprajake** » November 29th, 2022, 2:38 am

I'd take them with a pinch of salt

I answered a question on his Facebook page, with a link to a forum and he immediately banned and blocked me.

Your better of speaking with owners of the actual machine not some bloke who spent a few hours with a demo machine

#5: Post by **daveyb** » November 29th, 2022, 4:33 am

Aa Cuprajake said, but to add, with 3 x pid's you can program each individually and see exactly what is going on. There is no place to hide on this. Yes, I am an owner

#6: Post by **NelisB** » November 29th, 2022, 4:37 am

The Evo has heating cartridges in the group. These are controlled by a PID. PID is set to keep group temperature constant during extraction. But you can also have the group temp decline, like a traditional lever or you could even rise the temp during extraction. I believe most of us keep temp constant. I never heard anyone complain about temp stability.

#7: Post by **Cuprajake** » November 29th, 2022, 3:11 pm

#8: Post by **NelisB** » November 29th, 2022, 3:53 pm

The left temperature is at the cardridges in the group. As Jake demonstrates, it's not going anywhere. The blue temp is the the coffee boiler. The steam boiler is shut off. I don't think it can get any more stable than this.

#9: Post by **pizzaman383** » November 29th, 2022, 5:55 pm

The temperature of a lever group doesn't always match the temperature of the water hitting the coffee. The fact that the group head temperature never moves during and after a shot when the water temperature shows that it is 6 degrees C different doesn't match what typically happens when hotter water hits a colder group. PID-controlled heaters can't keep the group temperature from rising as it should when hotter water hits the group.

#10: Post by **Felice** » November 29th, 2022, 10:35 pm

macaber8 wrote:My questions have been answered by thelevermag.com:
https://thelevermag.com/blogs/articles/ ... eva-review

This is fantastic. Now I need to read more reviews from them to see how other lever machines do.

Man, levermag isn't afraid of some purple prose. Is it written by AI?