What current practice/espresso gear will we look back on very differently in 20 years?

January 31st, 2023, 2:05 pm

Could be good or bad, i.e. "I can't believe I didn't do/use XYZ back in 2023" or "I can't believe I used to do/use XYZ back in 2023"

For me: I think grinding by weight will become ubiquitous.

#2: Post by **ira** » January 31st, 2023, 2:13 pm

Grind by weight for shops not home, unless you integrate a bean dispenser and a grinder in one, like Titus did as an example. Otherwise, too much retention for home use. IMO.

#3: Post by **LBIespresso** » January 31st, 2023, 2:27 pm

I can't believe people used to do pour over by hand. How imprecise!!!

True, it is a highlight of my mornings...the relaxing and rewarding ritual. But so was starting the wood burning fire before gas stoves.

#4: Post by **Jeff** » January 31st, 2023, 2:54 pm

20 years?

Let's see, it's been a decade since conicals were clearly better than flats. Flat-mania and blind adherence to hearsay would be on my short list

E61 will finally become vintage-only

Manual extraction profiling

"1:2 in 25 seconds"

Discussion of time rather than flow rate

Not using refractometry as a feedback tool

#5: Post by **Elliot** » January 31st, 2023, 3:05 pm

Probably a lot.

- Voice and AI/assistant integration w/ the more techie-side of the machines
- ALL newly produced machines will make the Decent look manual. Few handmade, niche, exceptions, but everyone will be tablet/app first, buttons and hands later (if at all).
- Continued consolidation making for less optionality (Breville buying Lelit a good example)

Lots more, but as a guy that's spent MOST of his time on manual levers... it hurts.

#6: Post by **JB90068** » January 31st, 2023, 7:00 pm

Manufactures will place as much emphasis on aesthetics of their machines as function, thus we will stop seeing machines that look like toasters.

January 31st, 2023, 8:27 pm

No more boilers, i.e., the disappearance of closed vessels with resistive heating elements.

All machines connected to the Internet ... and all need to be connected for full functionality.

Greater variety in coffee - disease- and climate-resistant varietals, hybrids, novel processing, 'new' origins, etc.

... and this will be common enough as to not be newsworthy: Proud Mary Coffee Selling Best of Panama Winner for $150 Per Cup

#8: Post by **another_jim** » January 31st, 2023, 8:58 pm

NewCoffeeGuy1 wrote: "I can't believe I used to do/use XYZ back in 2023"

Let's hope it isn't "we used to have grinders and kettles back then, not mortar and pestles and hot rocks in old plastic mugs"

February 1st, 2023, 12:11 am

I wish this were funnier than it actually is because yeah, William Gibson here has a point.

#10: Post by **GC7** » February 1st, 2023, 10:00 am

In 20 years - I can't believe they took perfectly ripe cherries from a prime origin and farm and let them ferment for a week with or without oxygen!