Arist coffee machine (Kickstarter)

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Postby » Oct 30, 2014, 1:33 pm

So, I just came across this project. Basically, a super-auto. However, according to the creator, it's like having a professional barista at home. *sigh* :|

I'm skeptical it'll be exceptional for anything.
I know I've pulled a great shot when the flavour is 'like a beany taste that tastes like a bean'.

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Postby bostonbuzz » Oct 30, 2014, 3:18 pm

Weight-based grinding, automatic milk, automatic sugar, pressure control, cup detection, etc. in a small package for $250. :roll: Shenanigans.
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Postby sweaner » Oct 30, 2014, 8:49 pm

What exactly is a technical evangelist?
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Postby Bob_McBob » Oct 30, 2014, 8:57 pm

Check out the claims of IP infringement from Scanomat in the earlier comments.

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Postby canuckcoffeeguy » Oct 30, 2014, 9:17 pm

They also claim pressure profiling is a feature. Also, I wached the entire promotional video. We never see it pull a shot, just dispensing steamed milk.

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Postby Bak Ta Lo » Oct 30, 2014, 10:10 pm

sweaner wrote:What exactly is a technical evangelist?

This has become a really trendy new title in the tech world. Is tech something that needs an evangelist anymore, it seems like it is catching on fairly well all by itself. :roll:

Here is a job description from a guy that actually has the job.
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Postby mivanitsky » Oct 30, 2014, 11:06 pm

The perfect upgrade to your ZPM Nocturne!

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Postby Alan Frew » Oct 31, 2014, 2:01 am

The design appears to be missing a few mechanical bits and pieces, like a pump and a method for getting ground coffee into a brew chamber and removing spent grounds, a process which normally requires one or more small electric motors and more space than you'd think. The "form factor" of superautos is more or less dictated by pump, water heater and mechanical requirements, and I can't see any of them. Moving ground coffee into and out of a space pressurized to 9 bar at 90C isn't trivial.


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Postby Paul_Pratt replying to Alan Frew » Oct 31, 2014, 4:26 am

Not to mention a refrigerator, weight based grinder be honest anytime I see "15 bar pump" used in marketing fluff I just know they are clueless. I might back this just to stay in the loop, keep track of my tax dollars hard at work :roll:

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Postby Bob_McBob » Oct 31, 2014, 11:04 am

You can back it for $1 if you just want to see all the gory details and hidden private updates a year or two from now.

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