My "new" 5kg Turkish roaster has arrived - Page 14
- Balthazar_B
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Nothing else makes any sense, either, so at least things are consistent.Almico wrote:Everything is reading F, but the shutoff circuit might not make the switch when I changed from C to F, although that makes NO sense whatsoever.
- John
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- Almico (original poster)
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Given that the roast was undercooked, I'm going to assume the roaster is correct and Artisan is wrong.
I put the ET probe where the BT was and the temp jumped to 400*. So it's not the probe.
Still warming up. How late ng should a 5kg roaster take to get the 400*? At this rate, it will be over 1/2 an hour.
I put the ET probe where the BT was and the temp jumped to 400*. So it's not the probe.
Still warming up. How late ng should a 5kg roaster take to get the 400*? At this rate, it will be over 1/2 an hour.
- Almico (original poster)
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Found one issue. The probe I have is a J-type, not K. But I switched the driver setting and thenPhidget config in Artisan and it's still reading hot.
- Almico (original poster)
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Getting there...
I did a Brazil roast well into 2nd. 39/41 Agtron.
Also a Costa Rica which went long, but it looked lightish and measured 60/75. Good news, it yellowed at 300* and 1C was 386. We're getting somewhere.
Not sure why this roast ran out of steam. I charged hotter and only 6#. I turned the heat down to 25% till turning point, then 80% all the way through Maillard. It just kind of died. It's going to be quite the adventure learning this roaster. But I have two coffees to cup for tomorrow.
I did a Brazil roast well into 2nd. 39/41 Agtron.
Also a Costa Rica which went long, but it looked lightish and measured 60/75. Good news, it yellowed at 300* and 1C was 386. We're getting somewhere.
Not sure why this roast ran out of steam. I charged hotter and only 6#. I turned the heat down to 25% till turning point, then 80% all the way through Maillard. It just kind of died. It's going to be quite the adventure learning this roaster. But I have two coffees to cup for tomorrow.
- EddyQ
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There are two heat adjustments with this roaster. One is the gas and the other is air flow. Too much air flow will rob the 80% gas heat. So if you didn't want to add more gas, then try slowing the air a bit.Almico wrote:Not sure why this roast ran out of steam. I charged hotter and only 6#. I turned the heat down to 25% till turning point, then 80% all the way through Maillard. It just kind of died. It's going to be quite the adventure learning this roaster
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- Balthazar_B
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And the verdict is...?Almico wrote:But I have two coffees to cup for tomorrow.
- John
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Just curious, but how does one test the heat and speed of a gas roaster? How do you know how responsive? Are there tests that gas roasters do when they get a new machine?
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Are you able to hit your targets with small and large batch sizes?
- jammin
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CarefreeBuzzBuzz (our resident Artisan Guru) shared his personal technique to explore this. It was my impression that he used a static gas setting that would yield first crack in less than 10 minutes in concert with a similar, native charge temp. Using this baseline you conduct several test roasts with static fan settings & incrementally adjust from low to high in order to discover what is the optimal convection parameters for your system.crunchybean wrote:Just curious, but how does one test the heat and speed of a gas roaster? How do you know how responsive? Are there tests that gas roasters do when they get a new machine?
Alimico mentioned procuring floor sweeps from a local roaster, MillCity Roasters sells "seasoning greens" and C grade coffee can surely be found at your favorite supplier. Repetition & the freedom to experiment is an often under looked tool for discovering best roasting practices. A big sack of disposable coffee is the best investment you can make.
- Almico (original poster)
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So...we're making some progress. Coffee is going yellow around 300*F and I'm getting 1C around 380. So far, so good. Although it is almost impossible to hear 1C. I have to put my ear to the trier hole in order to hear anything. The ∆ET dip helps.
First the coffees from the other night. The dark roasted Brazil was very nice. It was a long, winding roast, but to no real ill effects. It was very sweet. I can't wait to tame this beast to real dial it in.
Although the Costa Rica went longer than I usually roast it, it was lighter than I'm used to with no underdeveloped or baked flavors. Being on the light side, I'm going to give it a second day of rest.
I did a few more roasts tonight. Something else seems amiss. Supposedly this is a 5kg roaster, I tried a 9# roast and it took 18 minutes to finish. I next tried 6# and it still ran long. Then I tried 5# and this is the profile:
Don't mind all the ET noise. I moved the ET probe to a chimney bolt hole right over the trier and every time I pulled it, the temp jumped.
The big issue is I charged pretty hot, kept the gas at 100% from charge through Maillard and yet the RoR sags badly from dry through 1C.
I had the exhaust fan on and damper at 20% open throughout. Closing the damper did not affect the RoR.
I think I screwed up on the gas nozzles. I drilled #55 holes and according to this chart http://web.go-spi.com/sinclairdev-new/w ... -Chart.pdf my BTU capacity is only 18,888. It should be 55,000 or even 75,000, like the Mill City 6kg roaster. I need to drill bigger holes, like #39.
First the coffees from the other night. The dark roasted Brazil was very nice. It was a long, winding roast, but to no real ill effects. It was very sweet. I can't wait to tame this beast to real dial it in.
Although the Costa Rica went longer than I usually roast it, it was lighter than I'm used to with no underdeveloped or baked flavors. Being on the light side, I'm going to give it a second day of rest.
I did a few more roasts tonight. Something else seems amiss. Supposedly this is a 5kg roaster, I tried a 9# roast and it took 18 minutes to finish. I next tried 6# and it still ran long. Then I tried 5# and this is the profile:
Don't mind all the ET noise. I moved the ET probe to a chimney bolt hole right over the trier and every time I pulled it, the temp jumped.
The big issue is I charged pretty hot, kept the gas at 100% from charge through Maillard and yet the RoR sags badly from dry through 1C.
I had the exhaust fan on and damper at 20% open throughout. Closing the damper did not affect the RoR.
I think I screwed up on the gas nozzles. I drilled #55 holes and according to this chart http://web.go-spi.com/sinclairdev-new/w ... -Chart.pdf my BTU capacity is only 18,888. It should be 55,000 or even 75,000, like the Mill City 6kg roaster. I need to drill bigger holes, like #39.