Turin DF83 - Page 12

Grinders are one of the keys to exceptional espresso. Discuss them here.
buckersss
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#111: Post by buckersss »

braxtonjens wrote:I have the 151G burrs.
To answer some questions; these burrs have a large outfall.

Just did some feeler gauge measuring ( i dont have access to nice calipers right now, I will probably run by a machine shop to see if they can measure for me)

But it looks like the outfall of each burr is around .05mm/ 500 microns.

Well I've tried to make espresso and to be expected the only thing I can do is turbo - spro over.
16/60 was 16 seconds with an AP bottom filter. And this was about 15/20 microns off chirp.

The coffee is very clear, sweet and clean. Tastes like very well extracted high tds filter coffee.

Filter coffee is very clear, low body/ texture/ mouthfeel, high acidity, that presents around the sides of the tongue with a gentle intro/ transitions of flavors (but not sharp like ditting54mm can be)

I am remembering why I love these burrs for filter coffee.

These really remind me of my ghost burrs but with higher clarity.

My ghost burrs have similar acidity presentation, acidity can be VERY high, but it is never sharp, or edgy.

This is all in context of (most directly) to ditting steels in a Vario, big boi ghost burrs (96mm OD, 35mm ID) italmill 47/48mm hand grinder, and a Lido E (etzinger burr, similar geo as ZP6 burr)
Thanks for following up and posting this. I realize it was a while back, but I reread it now and it helped.

I'm enjoying the compak k00812/Boyt 83mm burrs. Nothing against these, I'm itching to try something different though.

Given the price of SSP burrs I thought about trying the Mazzer K151Gs. But I'm only making espresso and from your comments these are a no go for me because of the outfall.

I think I will end up taking the plunge on the 83mm SSP MP burrs.

braxtonjens

#112: Post by braxtonjens »

No worries.
Yea they are filter (style) only.

I'll have to look at the 83mm Boyts.

83mm is a really nice platform now. Thank you SSP!
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malling

#113: Post by malling »

buckersss wrote:Thanks for following up and posting this. I realize it was a while back, but I reread it now and it helped.

I'm enjoying the compak k00812/Boyt 83mm burrs. Nothing against these, I'm itching to try something different though.

Given the price of SSP burrs I thought about trying the Mazzer K151Gs. But I'm only making espresso and from your comments these are a no go for me because of the outfall.

I think I will end up taking the plunge on the 83mm SSP MP burrs.
Mazzer G ain't really cheap burr, it's like €260-270, SSP is like €365, so if one want a filter type burr probably better waiting for the new burr coming for the DF83 at the reseller, as those should be much cheaper.

buckersss
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#114: Post by buckersss »

Yes i had seen the k151g for cheaper, but it was an item that was out of stock at that retailer. Looking around I realized that the going rate for them was more than I initially thought.

malling

#115: Post by malling »

I heard it's because it's either discontinued or soon to be.

mdumi

#116: Post by mdumi »

Hey lovely people,

Does anyone know when the v2 started being available & sold?

Thank you very much :)

buckersss
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#117: Post by buckersss »

malling wrote:I heard it's because it's either discontinued or soon to be.
Weird. The geometry on all their other burrs seems so similar to one another. Yet they are going to discontinue the one set that is the differentiator.

jeetS

#118: Post by jeetS »

mdumi wrote:Hey lovely people,

Does anyone know when the v2 started being available & sold?

Thank you very much :)
I think they started shipping the v2 in March

Molina

#119: Post by Molina »

So my chute in the V2 also retained lots of coffee. Have to clean it monthly and I grind 2-4 shots around 16-18 grams a day. Some people are saying they cut out the declumper? Why not simply remove the plastic thing completely? My declumper looks like a square flap (not the triangle shaped teeth) that's attached partly to the top of the plastic. Are you guys cutting out that loose square part?

Also, did someone ever install a different chute like https://www.etsy.com/listing/1395967647 ... ch_click=1

Hoping this could help with coffee retaining in the chute. Installing it will probably require glueing the existing plasma generator cable to this new chute.

LObin

#120: Post by LObin replying to Molina »

The Camparista chute didn't work for me. Retention was worse at the burr chamber exit mainly.

The only way to reduce the grind exchange to a minimum is to clean the top of the chute with a soft bristle brush or lense blower, every time you make an adjustment or change to a different coffee.

When I removed the declumper on my V1 chute, I didn't cut the declumper to use it as a spacer. I simply removed it and screw the chute back on. When I upgraded to the V2 chute, there were no coffee grounds inside the motor housing which indicates the seal was tight. I'm not saying this is the case for everyone though. Using a spacer is always better, when possible.

Removing the declumper helps reduce the buildup at the top of the chute a bit but it mostly diminishes the possibility of regrinding.
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