Niche Zero grinder - Page 84
-
- Posts: 129
- Joined: 7 years ago
I found that information by searching for the Niche warranty. And that's what I had come up.Markant wrote:No!
Please read the Guarantee on Niche website. ONE year warranty.
More misinformation (Trolling?): DaveC has been using Niche for many months as his daily driver, probably is still using it. (I haven't seen any post that he stopped using it).
Has he? All I found was that he tested it for two weeks. Considering he does a lot of new product testing why would he still be using it?
And be careful about who you're calling a troll. Tossing out that kind of slur is not appreciated.
-
- Posts: 86
- Joined: 5 years ago
Damn. Totally fell for the trolls. LulzMarkant wrote:No!
Please read the Guarantee on Niche website. ONE year warranty.
More misinformation (Trolling?): DaveC has been using Niche for many months as his daily driver, probably is still using it. (I haven't seen any post that he stopped using it).
- ash4889
- Posts: 459
- Joined: 10 years ago
- jchung
- Posts: 399
- Joined: 11 years ago
You haven't been following DaveC's posts across the various forums. It's his primary grinder. Has been since he reviewed it.robin416 wrote:I've been following this thread and I was almost convinced to go with the Niche. Here are my qualms, one is the 30 day warranty. That always makes me nervous when a company doesn't have enough faith in their product to offer at least a one year warranty.
I have not been able to find comments on the grinder that someone has used it every day since the release of the machine. I would like to know that this unit can out perform a certain grinder that is known for failing early.
Yes, DaveC reviewed it and found it fantastic. That was for two weeks. That's a long way from using one as a daily driver.
-
- Posts: 1774
- Joined: 17 years ago
I have been using a US specification grinder on a UK to US step down transformer for almost 1 year now. I have ground around 40-50Kg through the grinder so far. It's a long term test unit. I chose the US specification to long term test, because those grinders are a long way away. My step down transformer only gives me around 107V, so it's even better for loading up the grinder with a tougher test than running at the rated voltage.
The motor is quite beefy and many times larger than some popular grinders I won't name, spins very fast and via a planetary gearbox produces a lot of torque for grinding. DC motors have characteristics that make them very good for this sort of application, high power for size, flat torque across the entire speed range, high efficiency. It's why you don't hear it struggle to grind beans unlike many other grinders.The gearbox isn't metal, because it would be noisier, lubrication is problematic and it would ultimately be less suitable. I have abused various test grinders horribly and have not managed to break a gearbox yet. The guy did design the Kenwood Chef though, so might know a bit about gearboxes under load.
I's still the only grinder I use now and has not given me a single problem since I started using it beginning of March 2018, it works as well today as it did on day one...well actually better because the burrs are fully run in..
The motor is quite beefy and many times larger than some popular grinders I won't name, spins very fast and via a planetary gearbox produces a lot of torque for grinding. DC motors have characteristics that make them very good for this sort of application, high power for size, flat torque across the entire speed range, high efficiency. It's why you don't hear it struggle to grind beans unlike many other grinders.The gearbox isn't metal, because it would be noisier, lubrication is problematic and it would ultimately be less suitable. I have abused various test grinders horribly and have not managed to break a gearbox yet. The guy did design the Kenwood Chef though, so might know a bit about gearboxes under load.
I's still the only grinder I use now and has not given me a single problem since I started using it beginning of March 2018, it works as well today as it did on day one...well actually better because the burrs are fully run in..
-
- Posts: 86
- Joined: 5 years ago
Heyya Dave! Some of the links in your review are now broken. Just a heads up
- EddyQ
- Posts: 1043
- Joined: 8 years ago
Thanks for posting the photos of the motor. I was wondering what it looked like, but didn't want to take apart a well functioning, aligned grinder. BTW, did you note of any methods of how this grinder is aligned?cimbalino wrote:It's not about the amount of plastic, because there is very little plastic involved in the Niche construction. It's more about where it was used, this gearbox has a lot of play in it if you grab the top of the shaft with 2 fingers it deflects significantly. But sure such simple device used in a home environment should last a long time.
Also, relative to deflection. I measured mine a while back and it has very little deflection. Niche Zero grinder
LMWDP #671
- tohenk2
- Posts: 314
- Joined: 9 years ago
You did not look at the source then. (For instance the Niche website https://www.nichecoffee.co.uk/guarantee/ or Indiegogo)robin416 wrote:I found that information by searching for the Niche warranty. And that's what I had come up.
Yes, he has. Since you Googled, you could have known this.robin416 wrote:Has he? All I found was that he tested it for two weeks.
Again, the answer is out there -and even when I'm answering this while I am obviously not DaveC- the answer in summary is: he likes it.robin416 wrote:Considering he does a lot of new product testing why would he still be using it?
-
- Posts: 1774
- Joined: 17 years ago
I just downloaded the review (not view it in the browser) all the links of mine work. The only one link that doesn't work is the google docs one to the results of the pour over tests that are summarised in the review. Those are not mine and not under my control.TheN5OfOntario wrote:Heyya Dave! Some of the links in your review are now broken. Just a heads up
To the person asking about me using it for 2 weeks and why am I still using it?
I have been using a Niche grinder since April 2017, various prototypes (pre production), whilst I broke them, abused them and generally did horrible things to them. The US one though I have just heavily used for just under one year to simulate super heavy home use. You might put the same amount through in 2 years at home. I might even have put a lot more through it than I think.
I am still using it because I like it. It's easy to use, small, quiet, no waste, no mess, consistent and seems to work really well. It's certainly more than the sum of it's parts. It also allows me to suggest any slight modifications to future production (or indeed test them). e.g. I have some destruction testing to do soon on the lid, this I will perform both on an unfinished body and on the US version of the grinder. I have a few lids for this purpose. I'm still testing it because I can and why shouldn't I. I'm not being paid to test it...but see it as a favour to the community that I am. It's also easy as I don't intend to go back to using my Ceado E92.
I think it's the best thing that ever happened to the home coffee market and perhaps other manufacturers will start building affordable grinders that work well, rather than some of the very poor offerings we have seen to date.
P.S. I only review new things that I find interesting nowadays....value is not hugely important, it needs to have a certain something and of course related to coffee. e.g. Airscape Containers, ACS Minima, Counter top RO etc..
-
- Posts: 126
- Joined: 8 years ago
Dave, how much of your Niche use has been for brewed coffee, and do you include that usage in your high rating of the Niche? My impression from your videos is that you only make espresso. I read your review which included an assessment by a brew-type guy, but he didn't go into a lot of detail and in any case only had access for an afternoon.DaveC wrote:I have been using a Niche grinder since April 2017...
Please forgive me if I've missed where you've addressed this and feel free to direct me.