Niche Zero grinder - Page 238

Grinders are one of the keys to exceptional espresso. Discuss them here.
belegnole

#2371: Post by belegnole »

silkypull wrote:man.. reading this thread is killing me while i wait for my NZ to be delivered in Sept.
for those of you that are enjoying your NZ... any thoughts about this? i saw in a separate thread about how the NZ grinder needs to go through some seasoning first?

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All new burrs need to be "seasoned" or broken in.
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Freddofl

#2372: Post by Freddofl »

On the topic of seasoning burrs, what would be a good cheap option to buy a few pounds and run them through?

GregoryJ

#2373: Post by GregoryJ »

There's no need to purposely waste coffee through it. You can enjoy it straight from the beginning, and then appreciate a slightly reduced number of fines as it breaks in.

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Spitz.me

#2374: Post by Spitz.me »

Yep, I ignore break in periods for grinders and just use them from the get-go. I don't remember experiencing some Eureka moment a few months later when I reached whatever amount of seasoning people say is "required" to make the grinder sing.
I know I've pulled a great shot when the flavour is 'like a beany taste that tastes like a bean'.

belegnole

#2375: Post by belegnole »

Freddofl wrote:On the topic of seasoning burrs, what would be a good cheap option to buy a few pounds and run them through?
Though some people like to buy some cheap store bought coffee, say 5 pounds and run it through. I'm in the camp that just uses the machine and get's to know it. My Niche was like most others where after the burrs were seasoned it settled down and the setting for the coffee being used was a few notches lower. During the break in period it never behaved so randomly that I threw away a shot.
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#2376: Post by jwCrema »

Spitz.me wrote:Yep, I ignore break in periods for grinders and just use them from the get-go. I don't remember experiencing some Eureka moment a few months later when I reached whatever amount of seasoning people say is "required" to make the grinder sing.
+1

I completely agree. I would like see some science to back up "seasoning". The lifespan of the burr in the NZ is 600 kg of beans. What could possibly happen to the grinder in 5 kgs of waste beans? My NZ has been flawless since it came out of the box.

silkypull

#2377: Post by silkypull »

good to know about all these feedbacks. so how does the process go... mine is suppose to delivery in Sept.. so will i end up getting an email before it is shipped or would it just mysteriously show up at my door?

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OpenSource

#2378: Post by OpenSource »

jwCrema wrote:+1

I completely agree. I would like see some science to back up "seasoning". The lifespan of the burr in the NZ is 600 kg of beans. What could possibly happen to the grinder in 5 kgs of waste beans? My NZ has been flawless since it came out of the box.
+1 I had the same conversation in my local forum, I am also wondering what change can happen even throughout the 1st year of grinder use regarding the robustness of the burrs. After 5 years of use, I dunno, maybe there will be some microscopic changes I guess.

Perhaps someone can enlighten us on the subject?

Nick Name

#2379: Post by Nick Name »

Freddofl wrote:On the topic of seasoning burrs, what would be a good cheap option to buy a few pounds and run them through?
The absolutely most inexpensive option would be to drink the coffee you grind. That's what I did.

The coffee you want to drink you can decide yourself. :wink:

Nick Name

#2380: Post by Nick Name »

OpenSource wrote:+1 I had the same conversation in my local forum, I am also wondering what change can happen even throughout the 1st year of grinder use regarding the robustness of the burrs. After 5 years of use, I dunno, maybe there will be some microscopic changes I guess.

Perhaps someone can enlighten us on the subject?
I don't have any scientific data on the subject - and I never will have, but having used several hand grinders for a long time, I can easily feel the difference after a few months. When it comes to tasting, let's just say that some people taste things that some people will never taste.

Grinder burrs are really sharp when they come from the factory. For what its worth, so was my Japanese chef knife. I have to sharpen my chef knife on a weekly basis. But I don't use it with coffee beans though. :wink: