Niche Zero grinder setting change - Page 2

Grinders are one of the keys to exceptional espresso. Discuss them here.
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#11: Post by jinrowang (original poster) »

Mucj smoother when I turn now :)

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#12: Post by mgwolf »

I would take the grinder apart and check that the 4 motor mounting bolts are tight. A number of owners have reported that theirs loosened up because the factory had forgotten to put Loktite on the bolts. A simple fix for wandering grind settings.

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#13: Post by prosumerseeker »

Is it tricky to open it to check the motor mounting bolts?

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#14: Post by mgwolf »

Pretty easy. After you take out the burrs, there are 4 bolts to be unscrewed. 3 of them hold the case on and the 4th off-center one holds the exit chute in place. Take them all out and the case slides off and reveals the motor, etc. You will also need to disconnect two electrical connections to slide the whole thing apart. There are 4 bolts on the bottom of the motor holding it on. They should all be tight. I found two off and the remaining two quite loose when I took mine apart. When reassembling, you have to jigger/nudge the exit chute into place before you tighten up everything.
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#15: Post by prosumerseeker »

But by disassembling it I void the guarantee, right?

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#16: Post by realdoctor »

I can't be sure, but the top thread on the collar looks like it might be slightly damaged in the photo. The Niche threads are fine, but I don't know how anybody could have been sloppy enough to strip the threading by forcing it on cross-threaded. But just in case, take a very close look and see if the threads look precisely cut with identical sized grooves and no damaged areas. That's how they should look new and how they should continue to look. Even a tiny bit of thread damage would tend to jam the collar when it turns.

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#17: Post by Deserven »

Im sorry to chime into this thread but im having a similar issue and its bothering me for some time. Im using my ZN grinder with the Gaggia Classic Pro for more than a year now. Usually I grind at around 20-22 grind setting. I clean the grinder once a month. What started happening recently is that my grind settings are very inconsistent after cleaning and calibrating. Ill Calibrate after cleaning the grinder, return to my usual setting and find that its too fine and chocking the espresso machine. I then try to recalibrate and find that the calibration was way off. Idk why there is such a huge difference between calibrations before and after I grind for the first time after cleaning the grinder.

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#18: Post by DaveC replying to Deserven »

Calibration is an imperfect process as it depends on how hard you turn the grinds setting cone. You really only need to calibrate once, ever, unless you turn the black grind level indicator ring accidentally (and can't remember by how much ), or change the burrs, it doesn't need doing ever again. If you calibrate after every cleaning, it's almost certain your grind settings will be off a bit.

A screw thread is one continuous channel, with one start...same with the top barrier....the top carrier can only ever start in the same place every time.

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#19: Post by Jeff »

If you're removing the burr, then you need to ensure that the bolt is torqued to close to the same level each time. Otherwise the burr gap can be slightly different. Either a soft, wooden chopstick to hold the burrs or using a "snap" action have worked for me. Just tightening against the drag of the motor was not repeatable enough for me.

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#20: Post by cafeIKE »

Deserven wrote:I then try to recalibrate and find that the calibration was way off. Idk why there is such a huge difference between calibrations before and after I grind for the first time after cleaning the grinder.
There is an issue with the Niche calibration that requires same method each time. And care not to shift the movable cal marker dot when adjusting.

The upper burr carrier builds up a ring in line with the mounting bolts



The ring has a bit of height and prevents the clean cal position being attained.




This causes the adjustment point to vary. Solution is to cal with the grinder spotless and then mark the clean machine point.



As long as one keeps the clean mark and the dot aligned, settings are 110% repeatable... or at least they have been for the past 2½ years.