LAGOM mini - Page 13

Grinders are one of the keys to exceptional espresso. Discuss them here.
level3ninja

#121: Post by level3ninja »

Email Option-O, they'll probably sell them to you

booey91

#122: Post by booey91 »

Ordered this around the same time I ordered my p64, with the intent this would be for taking to work / travelling with. I got my mini last week, with moonshine burrs, have been using each day for 1-3 espressos (never back to back) on light roasted coffee. The result in the cup is great and I prefer to my Niche Zero - the claims about better clarity are very evident (so pretty excited about the p64 arriving soon).

Mine on two occasions whilst grinding has very briefly (talking less than a second) stopped and quickly started back up and completed grinding - I'm typically around the 0.5 turns mark. Does worry me about the motor, but this won't be getting every day use for very long, so should be fine. To be fair, option-o do say in the user manual to bed the burrs in a bit before using for very light roasted espresso - they don't suggest how much coffee needs to run through though and I wouldn't say the beans I'm using a on the 'very light' end of the scale either.

Overall, I'm very pleased with the purchase at the moment - the aesthetic, the design and the coffee it produces are excellent. Only thing that worries me is that very brief stall.

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Jeff
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#123: Post by Jeff »

I ran about 1/2 kg through my Moonshine and am grinding Tim Wendelboe and Coffee Collective on it for espresso without stalling. My "lock" is 6 big dots past "0" and I'm grinding at about 0.6 or 0.8 of a big dot coarser than "0".

nolans
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#124: Post by nolans »

I'm curious to hear how people are approaching espresso with the mini. I have owned the Niche, DF64 w/SSP MP, and DF64 w/SSP Lab Sweet. I am happy with my Lab Sweet burrs, but I find that they are much more similar to the SSP MP burrs than something like the Niche. They extract very fast and seem to perform better with light and medium-light coffees at longer ratios. I didn't love my Niche's flavor profile for my usual preferences, but I do feel like some coffees just don't work with the 64mm Lab Sweet burrs and I want another option. I was considering another DF64 with SSP HU burrs for more standard 2:1 espresso with a bit more body/texture and for milk drinks, but I am now leaning towards getting the Lagom Mini for that purpose and to double as a travel grinder. I know the grinder is capable of doing espresso well, but I'd love to hear what approaches to espresso have worked well for you.

zero610

#125: Post by zero610 »

Does anyone with a newer Mini have a good way to track grind size better? Why in the world would Lagom remove the numbers on the grind dial and just put dots? Now, I have to remember where my zero is and where the grind dial should be based on dots...Anyone come up with their own numbers on the Mini or good way to confirm grind setting without counting dots from zero?

Starspawn2318

#126: Post by Starspawn2318 »

I ordered a mini for the same purpose. I have a P64 with SSP MP burrs. I think it leaves something to be desired with some medium-dark roasts. So I have a mini ordered with the Obsydian burrs for a more rounded profile with more texture. I'll post an update after it comes in, supposedly later in the month.

lessthanjoey

#127: Post by lessthanjoey »

nolans wrote:I'm curious to hear how people are approaching espresso with the mini. I have owned the Niche, DF64 w/SSP MP, and DF64 w/SSP Lab Sweet. I am happy with my Lab Sweet burrs, but I find that they are much more similar to the SSP MP burrs than something like the Niche. They extract very fast and seem to perform better with light and medium-light coffees at longer ratios. I didn't love my Niche's flavor profile for my usual preferences, but I do feel like some coffees just don't work with the 64mm Lab Sweet burrs and I want another option. I was considering another DF64 with SSP HU burrs for more standard 2:1 espresso with a bit more body/texture and for milk drinks, but I am now leaning towards getting the Lagom Mini for that purpose and to double as a travel grinder. I know the grinder is capable of doing espresso well, but I'd love to hear what approaches to espresso have worked well for you.
I really like it for espresso, but it's the wrong direction for what you're asking. It makes light-body, high-clarity espresso. 64HU burrs are definitely more traditional than the mini (on either burrset, but particularly on moonshine). It's great for travel though, so if you decide you don't need a "traditional" burrset it's a good option.

salvia

#128: Post by salvia »

I'm considering getting a Lagom mini to accompany (and mostly supplant) the Kinu M47 that I've been using as my sole grinder since 2017.

I've been really happy with the M47, but as my consumption has gone up and I've gravitated towards lighter roasters, the grind time and effort is getting a bit wearing. It doesn't help that I'm grinding much finer now that I have the ability to do long pre infusions with the flow control I added to my QuickMill QM67.

I only do espresso and I'm particularly interested in the Mini as multiple members seem to prefer it to the Niche for light roasts.
My hesitation is with the duty cycle and concerns about longevity if regularly pushing the limits of the duty cycle with lighter roasts and ultra fine grinds.
Duty cycle: <90s (1.5 min) grind time per cycle, with a minimum rest time of 90s (1.5 min) in between cycles, for no more than 4 shots within a 10 minute period. Rest for at least 30 minutes once total cumulated grinding time has exceeded 6 minutes.
I typically make 4-5 doubles in succession in the morning. I could alter my habits to adhere to the duty cycle, but I would be regularly pushing against it.

For Jeff, Joe, or anyone else using the Lagom Mini for lighter roasts, do you have any thoughts or experiences using the grinder for multiple, back to back shots? Does it heat up? Are you concerned about pushing it too hard-even if technically staying within the recommended duty cycle?

I'll surely end up with a P100, Titus, Monolith, Versalab or other unquestionably capable grinder, but not anytime soon, so am contemplating what makes sense as a (time + effort saving) upgrade in the nearer term.

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Jeff
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#129: Post by Jeff »

I don't use what I consider ultra-fine grinds. Virtually all of my shots are under 30 seconds with most around 20 seconds or less, from pump on, at 4-5 bar extraction pressure. I don't worry about duty cycle, but I'm not pulling more than a couple shots at a leisurely pace.

zellleonhart

#130: Post by zellleonhart »

There have been multiple reports of the mini having the gear broken mainly due to espresso grinding. Of course it does not happen to every unit but it's unsure if they have replaced the plastic gear with a stronger material. They only recommend grinding espresso with resting time in between grind sessions.

I have a mini + moonshine and even with the newer adapter, it does stall sometimes when grinding light roast espresso aiming for a 22s shot. YMMV but I personally don't recommend the mini (for now) if you plan to grind for espresso few times a day. Once a day I think it should be fine.

EDIT: See next post by level3ninja for more details