Big ol' mountain of text, I apologize ( but it sums up pretty much all my take on both).
Only a guess, but maybe that 2mm difference in burrs results in an exponential increase in required effort for the Lido 2? It's likely capable of "swallowing" a greater mass of beans at one time, and thus, having more coffee to grind thru at a given time. That makes sense scientifically, since it took half as many revolutions to complete the job as the Hausgrind, it was just all that much harder to crank on though.
I'm not boasting about my strength, now I'm mostly fat, not muscle. But I'd take a stab and guess that I'm a fair bit stronger than many average folks in regards to hand and forearm strength, mainly due to an earlier hobby of gripper strength training (Captain of Crush Grippers, I could close the #2 gripper for several reps, and that's 195 pounds of force- Ironmind Enterprises
). I'd bend hot and cold rolled nails as a hobby in a few years gone by as well as various hand/grip/arm strength training. And that being said, I don't want to put the effort into what it takes to get the Lido 2 to grind, on a daily basis. At least in this beta form. Things may change.
I say that to provide perspective. I could not use the Lido2 even braced on my hip, to grind espresso without breaking a sweat, and practically being short of breath from the exertion. The many stop-starts took a great deal of determination to struggle thru to finish the task. It's not my job to re-engineer something that I didn't make, so I have no idea of whether longer handles would change anything in that regards. But Henry and I both felt clearly, that it would be much more user friendly with a big thick knob. The pinch grip style of holding the OEM knob leads to fatigue quickly, when a great deal of effort is put into grinding fine coffee we both found our fingers beginning to cramp.
The knob never slipped off or gave any hint of it being even slightly loose. It's as secure and smooth as the rotation of the whole upper grinder section.
I didn't make a video of the Lido 2 at an espresso grind fineness for two plain reasons:
(1) we couldn't set the burrs and keep them there consistently. Tightening the upper locking ring very tightly against the settings ring is necessary to keep things tight, but it's very difficult, and with only the small indented marking lines to grip on, it made for quite a chore. You had to hold the grinder carefully and mindfully as you tried to remove the catch cup, and make sure that the lower ring didn't move in the process. One thing we also should have done, for sake of thoroughness would have been to take before and after pictures of the grind setting indicator on each grind attempt before removing
or even touching the glass catch cup. This would provide evidence and feedback whether it's slipping during or just after. I saw it do it during, but didn't stop to try and document every step.
(2) I didn't want my larger size and strength to give a false impression of how hard or easy it may have been. Henry can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he could even finish one grinding attempt with the Lido2 for espresso. I had to do all the grinding, then tamp with the Espro, identify which was which to my girlfriend, then leave the room. She noted which basket she handed to Henry (his back was turned to her) and Henry pulled the shots on his Quickmill Achille Lever.
I think a whole day needs to be dedicated to nothing other than just espresso, and using a hand grinder friendly espresso. The Heart Coffee was properly rested, but they're not known for overly developed roasts. I can effortlessly grind Linea Caffe Espresso on the Hausgrind, and I think to be completely fair to the Lido 2, that same coffee should be ran thru it before any major decisions are made. But I stand behind my judgement that the Hausgrind, even using the lightest cupping roast at espresso fineness
, was a great deal easier to grind than using the powdery baked Illy espresso blend in the Lido 2 at anything finer than a medium coarse cupping grind.
I think a part of it is simply being unfamiliar with the grinder. With work, someone could figure out how tight to lock the upper set ring and how tight to set the lower ring, but another fear was that when tightening on the catch cup, everything slid around
The Lido 2 beat the pants off the Hausgrind with the ease of the funnel feed. The Hausgrind beat the pants off the Lido 2 with how easy it was to set up desired grind, and how easy it was to actually use. And ultimately, subjectively
, but with quite strong evidence, we both independently chose the Hausgrind a far better portable hand grinder. I could turn the knob and dose and be halfway thru grinding while Henry was still fighting with figuring out where his burr setting was, and then trying to secure them there, and verify that they stayed
there. And when it was all done grinding, I could dump my dose quicker. A wide mouth funnel would shorten the time it takes for the glass catch jar for the Lido 2, but that's another tool.
I want to add one note, over the next few days, I'm going to take the Hausgrind thru a new test. I'm going to strip it and clean it (although it still looks as clean as the day I got it) then I'm going to run a series of tests where I completely eliminate the lower wooden catch cup and just grind directly into some ceramic cupping bowls. I'll do this along with the standard operating procedure of using the wooden catch cup as is, and blindly assess them to see if there's a noticeable difference. I'm curious if there is.
A tip of the hat to the Lido 2, this morning, while at work making my coffee, I still wanted to have it with me to grind with, not instead of the Hausgrind, but just to continue getting adapted to it and to enjoy its incredible taste capabilities. I find it extremely
heavy, but if I had a workplace setting where I could safely leave it, and have the rubber bumper pad readily available, I think I'd be much, much more likely to lean towards the Lido 2, if and only if, it was only expected to be a cupping grinder and I didn't have to carry it with me every day. But the flavor it delivered slightly edged out the Hausgrind on all but the Geisha.