KINGrinder manual grinders. The new king of value? - Page 2

#11: Post by **malling** » December 1st, 2021, 2:08 pm

jpender wrote:Even if true that they were both owned by the same Taiwanese company why, specifically, would that be a reason to boycott them?

Mostly I think it's their slogan that might put someone off.

Also a bit hilarious if their slogan is "to heal the worship of western culture" with a name as king grinders and for a company making products so you can live a western lifestyle, because the coffee culture of today certainly has its roots there.

#12: Post by K7 » December 1st, 2021, 2:16 pm

I try to avoid mainland Chinese goods (if possible) because they are cheap for a reason.
10x that if the product is food or processes food/drinks I ingest. (mainly stuff made and sold by small biz with low or zero standards)
100x that if the company has a slogan like that.

#13: Post by **jpender** » December 1st, 2021, 2:24 pm

Okay, but Taiwan isn't mainland China.

#14: Post by **jandrew** » December 1st, 2021, 2:30 pm

malling wrote:Yes the company is based in Taiwan, but does not necessarily mean the grinders are actually built there.

1zpresso has offices in Taiwan and China and its products are manufactured in China.

I've not seen the previously mentioned "slogan" for Kingrinder anywhere and can't comment on its translation --- but in its own context it may not be any different than a "proudly American made" sticker/label.

#15: Post by K7 » December 1st, 2021, 2:31 pm

jpender wrote:Okay, but Taiwan isn't mainland China.

It's not clear to me whether it's from Taiwan or mainland China. I too thought the company is Taiwanese, but that quote suggests maybe not.
But Taiwan-vs-China doesn't matter with a slogan like that. At least to me.

#16: Post by **jpender** » December 1st, 2021, 2:46 pm

If there's any truth to the quote maybe @Rcus will do more than just say it.

1Zpresso: No. 128, Asia Road, Tucheng District, New Taipei City 236, Taiwan
https://1zpresso.coffee/contact-us/

Kingrinder is apparently a product of the Chen Kang Coffee Co., Ltd.
11F.-3, NO. 22, SHOUDE ST., ZHONGHE DIST NEW TAIPEI CITY TAIWAN 235601
https://uspto.report/TM/90141526

Would a mainland Chinese company pretend to be Taiwanese?
Maybe they have a factory in China. If that's an issue I will have to throw away my iPhone now...

#17: Post by **jpender** » December 1st, 2021, 2:49 pm

jandrew wrote:1zpresso has offices in Taiwan and China and its products are manufactured in China.

How do you know this?

#18: Post by **Jeff** » December 1st, 2021, 2:53 pm

Unless there's a statement from one or both firms that they are the same, or the same owners, that a suggestion of that is "public" isn't very meaningful.

When I go to the 1Zpresso site, there is an address, telephone numbers, and email addresses provided at https://1zpresso.coffee/contact-us/

No. 128, Asia Road, Tucheng District
New Taipei City 236
Taiwan

I am unable to find any such information on the KinGrinder site. This is not "confidence building" in any way.

The Amazon (US) store lists

Business Name:King Grinder Co. Ltd.
Business Address:
11F.-3, No. 22, Shoude St.,
ZHONGHE DIST
NEW TAIPEI CITY
235
TW

These appear to be in very different parts of the area.

#19: Post by **jandrew** » December 1st, 2021, 3:07 pm

jpender wrote:How do you know this?

Regarding point of manufacture I assume? They have answered as such on amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/asin/B0819Y5T2L/

December 1st, 2021, 3:20 pm

Rcus wrote:The official slogans of the kingrinder are "to support the made in China products" and "to heal the worship of western culture"

Can you share a link to the page where these slogans are?