Kafatek Monolith Conical has gone through a major change... - Page 17

Grinders are one of the keys to exceptional espresso. Discuss them here.
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#161: Post by JohnB. »

atao wrote:
I'd be really curious John if you might be interested to grab a bag of this coffee or really any other coffee, could even coordinate on getting the same batch (like what folks did in the Tim Wendelboe subscription thread). Doing this with the same grinder and baskets would be very interesting and educational since clearly there's something that you're seeing that I am not, or else there's some other significant difference like the coffee

If there is a better world with the HQ baskets, if want to benefit from it. But from the 25 or so shots I've pulled in the context of this thread for this coffee, HQ is consistently leading to sour shots for me and VST less so.
You might want to picked up a bag of Caffe Lusso's Grand Misela Carmo as a fresh 5 lb bag just left their shop yesterday heading my way. I'd also suggest picking up the HQ 14 ridged basket https://www.espressoparts.com/products/ ... ggQAvD_BwE

It's a little better at pulling out the various flavors then the 14 ridgeless. I don't measure extraction, I go strictly by taste. This morning I pulled another sweet, creamy, tasty shot of GMC.
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#162: Post by Mostlyharmless »

FWIW, looks like the conical manual was updated recently, sorry if it's already mentioned.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LJtAca ... X1Tou/view

Some new (?) guidance on seasoning on its landing page:

https://www.kafatek.com/index.php/manuals/

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#163: Post by Ben Z. »

John, I've been using an old school basket (maybe epnw? I used it with my Elektra) and have been pulling pretty and delicious 17g shots for the past few days. Maybe it's me, maybe the grinder has changed, but I'll stay away from fancy new baskets for a while. Thanks for the tip.

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#164: Post by CarefreeBuzzBuzz »

JohnB. wrote:Yes it is. I put up with it for a couple months and then replaced it with a red 12v led switch. Much nicer now. The red matches my grind collar & SW PF holders but isn't blindingly bright.
Where did you get that switch?

And what RPM are you using for medium roasts? I might have missed that; didn't read the entire thread.
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#165: Post by JohnB. replying to CarefreeBuzzBuzz »

I'm using this 12v switch: https://www.apiele.com/products/10-amp- ... 4757727397

I use 120 rpm for medium roasts. Same rpm as my old MC5 came set to.
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#166: Post by Ben Z. »

Two observations:

I dropped rpms down to 60 for the last couple of days. Significantly slower extractions. For some reason I thought it would be the opposite.

The bellows and clicker and turbo purge seem unnecessary. Negligible grinds come out with any of them.

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#167: Post by JohnB. replying to Ben Z. »

I agree about the thwacker exit chute and purge button. I switched to the MC5 magnetic chute assy soon after receiving my MC6. I've never seen anything come out after bumping the rpm up to 200 with the purge button. I do use a bellows and it does clear the grinds and push in any beans hanging up on the pre breaker but it's not the Mr. Puff that came with the grinder.
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#168: Post by CarefreeBuzzBuzz »

So. Pleasantly surprised with the MC6. My main reason in ordering it was the grind collar as we are now drinking a lot of decaf as well at age 65. My older Flat from 2018 (with Titanium Mythos burrs) was before the easy grind collar adjustments and it was honestly a PIA to change for each bean. There were enough upgrades as well to the Conical in the motor etc. that I decided it was time to made my workflow easier.

I have been doing side by sides the last few days with a home roasted to medium Honduras Honey Processed Bean, and within reasonably similar shot profiles I have to say the Conical wins in clarity, sweetness and what I perceive as slightly more acidity but may just be the other two descriptors. Used an EP Ridgeless basket. That's the only one I had two identical baskets. On a Nicaragua Pink Bourbon the sweetness was not as different but the Conical clarity was greater. Could the fact that the Flat is 6 years old matter. Of course it could. Although in this home use, the burrs would still be solid.

I am fine with the bean chute as it and am grinding directly into the portafilter. Doing RDT (essential in Arizona) in the new silicon pour cup provided instead of my glass dosing jars. These changes simplify the workflow as well.

Very happy with this purchase.
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#169: Post by pschloes »

Agree with all of the prior comments... my MC6 was a December order and it seems like the one grinder to rule them all. I've have no trouble pulling good/great shots with both medium and dark roasts (Haven't tried super light yet, but I hear it's ok with those as well). I'm coming from a '21 Flat with SLM which I will likely sell in the future. With RDT I also get very little additional out with the full metal thwack-it...
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#170: Post by michael »

Which burrs do you have in the flat 8)