It's the Grinder, Stupid - Page 2

Grinders are one of the keys to exceptional espresso. Discuss them here.
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JohnB.
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#11: Post by JohnB. »

allon wrote:.the level of effort with the Pharos isn't that much different from single dosing a large electric grinder.
You're kidding I hope. Not to knock the Pharos which I did own briefly but there is no comparison between the two as far as ease of use goes. Buy a K10, set it up for single dosing & see how often you reach for the Pharos.
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#12: Post by allon »

No, not kidding.
Compared against brushing the throat and doser of a grinder, Spanking the Pharos (wow, that sounds naughty) is nothing. Once you've got it down, it's pretty simple.

I use a scale, and I know beans in = grinds out.
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#13: Post by samuellaw178 » replying to allon »

Not for me though. :oops: I still lose a bit of the coffee like .2g due to static-stuck ground in the funnel and outside the funnel. And I don't think I've nailed the art of Pharos spanking, because it's definitely not that simple for me. :P Could you share how you did it?For sure though, brushing the electrical grinder's definitely way easier.It took me just like, what, 2 seconds?

Less than 1 lb through and quite a bit of ground escaped outside the funnel


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#14: Post by JohnB. »

allon wrote:No, not kidding.
Compared against brushing the throat and doser of a grinder, Spanking the Pharos (wow, that sounds naughty) is nothing. Once you've got it down, it's pretty simple.

I use a scale, and I know beans in = grinds out.
Ok then you're just kidding yourself. Reading the Pharos owner's thread is great entertainment but it certainly doesn't make me want to order another one.
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#15: Post by samuellaw178 » replying to JohnB. »

John,
Yes, using a Pharos does require more efforts as compared to a electrical grinder. But hey, it's not to the extend of unbearable. Well, at least I could say it's definitely the best grinder for those who can't afford 1k to get a big conical grinder and don't mind spending that extra 2 minutes for the espresso experience. It's sort of become your ritual once you are used to it, I supposed. For $260, you can't expect it to be a full fledged titan grinder right? Otherwise, I could see everyone selling off their titan conical and run to get their Pharos. It's a grinder that does not compromise performance at all, but maybe requires more thought in the ergonomic department. :oops:

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#16: Post by claypriley »

#162 Pharos Grinder has landed!!! Picked it up this morning! I am so very impressed with the Pharos.... This piece of artwork is going to end up in the MOMA in NYC in front of all the Alessi designed stuff. I will change threads and got to the user experience.... Letcha know how it goes.....
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#17: Post by solocrema »

When will someone build a home sized version of this:

http://www.mpechicago.com/coffee/grinde ... sso/600_f/

What's its price tag? :roll:
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#18: Post by claypriley »

Here is a picture of the grinder in Taubate, SP Brasil..... at a roastery called Cafe Bambi;
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#19: Post by Bob_McBob »

JohnB. wrote:You're kidding I hope. Not to knock the Pharos which I did own briefly but there is no comparison between the two as far as ease of use goes. Buy a K10, set it up for single dosing & see how often you reach for the Pharos.
I've never used a Pharos, but based on watching Youtube videos, I don't see much of a difference when grinding a shot other than the 30 seconds of manual labour to do the actual grinding. Despite what the K10 single dosing brigade tells everyone, it still requires a substantial amount of bumping and grinding to actually clear out as much as you put in. Seems pretty equivalent to the knocking and shaking with the Pharos to me. For $1200 less, I think a lot of people would put up with any perceived difference in ease of use.
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#20: Post by claypriley »

Love, love, love, my Pharos........... don't tell my wife.
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