Hedone grinder - looks very much like a Versalab/Titus

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Zawaya_T

Postby Zawaya_T » Aug 17, 2017, 6:20 pm

Hey,

A friend showed me this a while ago but it seems to be in Romanian. I haven't found any information here or anywhere else and was wondering if anyone has any useful information or experience with one..


https://www.hedonecafe.ro/shop/rasnita-profesionala-honne/






ds

Postby ds » Aug 17, 2017, 6:55 pm

Yeah, definitely a Versalab clone.

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Alan762

Postby Alan762 » Aug 17, 2017, 6:57 pm

Amazing :shock: Rube Goldberg Lives :lol:
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renatoa

Postby renatoa » Aug 18, 2017, 1:59 am

This grinder is manufactured in my town, I was in the small factory that made them and I can answer some details.

More pictures from me and other fellow visits, and videos of the working grinder, here in the Romanian forum:
http://www.espressoman.ro/forum/Thread- ... -by-Hedone

Try google translation, works pretty accurate.

Gustopher

Postby Gustopher » Aug 18, 2017, 9:14 am

They also make a espresso machine heavily 'inspired' by KVDW :roll:

renatoa

Postby renatoa » Aug 18, 2017, 9:22 am

Sure, as any other E61 group based machine looks like all others... :)

ds

Postby ds » Aug 18, 2017, 9:30 am

I suspect if John Bicht wasn't too old to pursue copycats like this one and the Titus legally none of them would be around. Sure, they changed/improved on some aspects of Versalab design, but if you put them side by side normal people would think its exact same product with different finish/color.

CwD

Postby CwD » Aug 18, 2017, 9:43 am

Am I converting currency right to see the price is about $1,400 in USD?

EDIT: Also, I love this google translate "I'm glad we have similar, very similar findings. Where do I think the lobsters are "the same," which is good."

renatoa

Postby renatoa » Aug 18, 2017, 10:00 am

Dienes has patents on anything that means handheld grinder with conical burrs, are you aware they sued anyone for copyrights?
Or, closer to our days, Porlex vs Rhinowares... and Hario vs ... world

Yes, price conversion is right, for the big professional version with two hoppers and counters.
The home version is cheaper, around $1000, for forum members only.

Zawaya_T

Postby Zawaya_T » Aug 18, 2017, 11:04 am

CwD wrote:Am I converting currency right to see the price is about $1,400 in USD?

EDIT: Also, I love this google translate "I'm glad we have similar, very similar findings. Where do I think the lobsters are "the same," which is good."



It is surprisingly low priced compared to the others... But if you look closely, the finish looks far from as good quality