Gustopher wrote:They also make a espresso machine heavily 'inspired' by KVDW
Looks like a very ugly Spirit knockoff but with E61 groups. The Evo 1 group version is really odd looking.
Zawaya_T wrote:It is surprisingly low priced compared to the others... But if you look closely, the finish looks far from as good quality
ds wrote:And plus there was no research, development and design involved... They just copied somebody's else hard work...
ds wrote:I suspect if John Bicht wasn't too old to pursue copycats like this one and the Titus legally none of them would be around.
ds wrote:Sure, they changed/improved on some aspects of Versalab design, but if you put them side by side normal people would think its exact same product with different finish/color.
Terranova wrote:Completely nonsense, John Bicht patented the M3 espresso machine but not the grinder.
There is a definition by law which is a bit more complex then "put them side by side and people would think it's the same product".
If manufacturers morals would be as high as yours we would still all drive a Ford Modell T
ds wrote:Design and basic construction I am sad to say is totally copied from Versalab.
But it doesn't matter: the USPTO shows no utility patents or design patents on the Versalab M3 (no patents containing the words Versalab or Bicht.)