Goudveer F1, manual + electric small grinder (Kickstarter) - Page 2

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#11: Post by zix (original poster) »

Well caught, @baldheadracing! I didn't think to look critically at the pictures and backers, although the presentation video looked a bit too polished.
And yes, backing suspended. Somebody from KS watching H-B closely? ;)
Edit: more likely the fact that it was dragged all over FB yesterday...
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#12: Post by Milligan »

I'm curious what caused KS to take it down? Must have been something more than a bad value proposition for backers. A lot of the copy looks like it was AI generated especially the "about us" and the "about the creator" section. Good to see KS looks into companies at least a little bit to help reduce fraud and scams.

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#13: Post by jpender »

kickstarter website wrote:
Why would a project be suspended?

A project may be suspended if our Trust & Safety team uncovers evidence that it is in violation of Kickstarter's rules, including but not limited to:

- Misrepresentation of support, through self-pledging or artificial inflation of the number of backers or amounts pledged
- Misrepresentation or failure to disclose relevant facts about the project or its creator
- The creator provides inaccurate or incomplete user information to Kickstarter or one of our partners
- The characteristics of the creator account overlap with the characteristics of backer accounts that pledged to their project
- A party related to the creator is posing as an independent, supportive party in project comments or elsewhere
- The creator is presenting someone else's work as their own
- The creator is offering purchased items, claiming to have made them
- The creator or an affiliated service is spamming potential backers with promotional materials
- The creator is repackaging a previously created product, without adding anything new or aiming to iterate on the idea in any way

Projects may also be suspended if they were auto-approved but, on closer inspection, do not fall within our rules....

...Once a project has been suspended this cannot be undone.
https://help.kickstarter.com/hc/en-us/a ... suspended-

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#14: Post by baldheadracing »

Warning: the project is planning on going to IndieGogo: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/go ... o/comments

As an aside, the responses to backer's questions in the link could be a case study of sounding good but saying nothing of substance.
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#15: Post by jpender »

They did sign the message "Love".

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#16: Post by baldheadracing »

... and ... they're on IndieGogo and have already found $10k worth of ... well, I don't want to insult anyone :|.

BTW, there look to be some similarities between this grinder and the 1ZPresso Q Air - except that the Q Air a different and no doubt better burrset and is (in Canada) $72USD, albeit with no motor.
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