Stavey wrote:I haven't been back to this thread since I sent my Ode back. The Ode is like the Glock of the gun world. It's cheaply made and not really good at any one thing . Yet people love them. (MUST BE THE 64mm BURRS ) If you are happy with the Ode then that is all that matters . However fact is the factory burrs of the Ode produce lots of oversized boulders. This is just one of its known issues but this alone is a deal breaker for me.
As far as my encore, I would bet if you ran them both through a kruve sifter, the encore would destroy the Ode. I don't care about how the Ode looks or what size the burrs are . I care what it produces. I couldn't justify another $200 into a grinder that appears and feels cheaply made. Now if it were my Niche then maybe new $200 burrs would be acceptable. However in the Ode no way.
As far as a vario , once aligned the Vario is lightyears ahead of the Ode irregardless of burr size. There's a reason the vario has an almost cult following, and it isn't a large set of inefficient burrs like the Ode . It's due to producing a quality uniform grind.
I think you got a bad unit but I think you're taking it way too personal. It's like if you met the first (insert ethnicity) guy and he turned out to be a jerk, you now think all people of that ethnicity are scum of the earth. Do you know how many Baratza's break? They literally have a steady stream of refurbs to sell, that's how many. There's no need to justify your decision, it's yours and yours alone to make. Saying YOUR Encore is better than YOUR Ode may be true but saying all Encores are better than all Odes is just unfounded and illogical and you'll be hard pressed to find many who share it. Go get a Vario it's a good grinder, with its own little issues and maybe your Encore will be better than that one too. I'll see you over in those threads.
As for my new discoveries, I got a set of SSP burrs to fit in mine as well as my buddy's (he ran over here to check as soon as he heard I got mine). If you order directly from SSP you'll get them within a week. I ordered on a Friday and got them the next Friday. I have the Silver Knight coating as well so they're not uncoated and they not only fit, there's a bit of play too so it's not even like it's the most exact fit in the world. Both our burr carriers seem to be the same, cast and then machined in areas. a 63mm SSP burr may be too loose for some. After I make a review video and comparison with the Vario, the Vario is probably going into storage or being lent to a good friend.
Initial impressions, I first thought (as did my buddy) that the Ode is louder with SSP burrs. Using the same phone and sound meter app as I did in my initial review video, it turns out they're the same decibels but the SSP burrs produce a higher frequency. I'm not sure why, as this is the case even without grinding. My guess is that the geometry of the burrs is moving the air differently therefore producing a different frequency, kind of like a whistle. I'm no physicist though so I could be way off.
The grind quality definitely seems to have improved but I don't think it will be night and day. Rather a good marginal improvement with the ability to grind much finer. I have run 3kg of seasoning beans provided by a roaster so far. The cup seems to be more complex with better mouthfeel. The original Ode burrs had a lot of clarity, like coffee with fines sifted, but felt a bit hollow at times.