I assume the wording is thanks to items for sale like this: Variable Density Plasma Negative Generator. I assume the one in the Turin will be more like the Ode, but at least the language makes more sense after seeing this.

https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Density ... B079YZYY11

....and I ordered one. Figured why not. DF83 on the way!

So, more like 'ionizer' than 'plasma generator'.

Under the right conditions a tiny glow can be observed on the business end of the electrodes, which I suppose could be called a teensy plasma. Although 'plasma' sounds cool, I consider it the most violent state of matter and would rather it didn't get all light-saber-busy on my freshly ground coffee. On the other hand, an ionizer is a kinder/gentler method to dissipate the charged grounds, so bravo for the DF83 including it!

I tried something similar with my DF64 and the electronics from an electric fly swatter, but the results were disappointing. I'm hoping to learn more about the DF83's version to figure out where I went wrong.

Deephaven wrote:I assume the wording is thanks to items for sale like this: Variable Density Plasma Negative Generator. I assume the one in the Turin will be more like the Ode, but at least the language makes more sense after seeing this.

https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Density ... B079YZYY11

....and I ordered one. Figured why not. DF83 on the way!

You'll need to step down the power from 110VAC to 19VDC.

These seem like a easier/cheaper way to experiment:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832784712209.html

I wasn't promoting buying one....just found that the name plasma generator was amusingly used for the same thing. For .99 though you sort of made me want to.

....what I ordered was a df83 with the generator already in.

Deephaven wrote: ....what I ordered was a df83 with the generator already in.

I think you'll love it. I'm pretty happy with the DF83 so far, my shot times are starting to settle down as I've put about 2 pounds of beans through it. I've resisted messing with the declumper so far, but will probably open things up soon to change the grind scale sticker and do the declumper mod at the same time. Those are the only issues so far - your v2 should have the declumper mod and anti-static feature, and you'll probably be able to find the grind scale stickers easily from people who ordered extras. The fines are a minor cosmetic annoyance, but retention is otherwise low and the flavor profile seems an increment more distinct and clear than my old niche.

What is wrong with the grind size stickers?

The original grind size label could have better markers. Old on the left, user generated new design on the right.

syc wrote:The original grind size label could have better markers. Old on the left, user generated new design on the right.

The user generated new design is much, much better! That user used to work at NASA?

Meh, given the price, I don't mind a cheesy sticker.