Aergrind: compact coffee grinder by Knock (Kickstarter) - Page 2

Grinders are one of the keys to exceptional espresso. Discuss them here.
wsfarrell

Postby wsfarrell » Mar 28, 2017, 6:14 pm

sweaner wrote:I have to wonder why an established company really has to use Kickstarter. Just invest in your business and make the product, a la Orphan Espresso.

Salvatore did a kickstarter a while back for his compact spring lever. I think it's viewed by some as a way to get a quick influx of cash and some publicity. His machines were delivered within a couple months of deadline, not bad for kickstarter.

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jbviau

Postby jbviau » Mar 28, 2017, 7:04 pm

"It's not anecdotal evidence, it's artisanal data." -Matt Yglesias

baldheadracing

Postby baldheadracing » Mar 28, 2017, 7:33 pm

Backed. It doesn't have a plug, which is a good thing for Kickstarter. Also on the plus side, the burr is a known quantity, and my Al-bodied Hausgrind works well.

On the other side, there are those issues alluded to in prior posts. The August 2017 delivery is - my guess - optimistic. I am expecting zero updates other than the odd Instagram pic. I will be happy if the grinder gets to me a year from now (I'm still waiting on most of my Kruve ...).
What I'm interested in is my worst espresso being fantastic - James Hoffmann

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Bob_McBob

Postby Bob_McBob » Mar 28, 2017, 9:04 pm

The 25g capacity makes it a nonstarter for my typical usage, but I guess many people only ever brew single cups. I understand the appeal of fitting in an Aeropress (a criticism of the Feldgrind when it was released), but the Feldgrind is already incredibly easy to travel with, and ~13cm vs. 19cm height doesn't make much difference to me. Most of the weight savings seem to stem from the unibody construction vs. the Feldgrind's chunky separate grind unit. I'm concerned about the thin body wall and how well large beans will feed through the narrow openings around the bearing mount.
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jbviau

Postby jbviau » Mar 29, 2017, 6:42 am

Bob_McBob wrote:Most of the weight savings seem to stem from the unibody construction vs. the Feldgrind's chunky separate grind unit. I'm concerned about the thin body wall and how well large beans will feed through the narrow openings around the bearing mount.

Yeah, I got a bit of a Helor vibe from that aspect of it. Valid concerns to be checked up on. I backed.
"It's not anecdotal evidence, it's artisanal data." -Matt Yglesias

ebola5114

Postby ebola5114 » Mar 29, 2017, 8:06 am

Maybe I don't see them, could someone tell me the innovations of this new grinder? there are many hand grinders out there with different prices tags and sizes, it's a really competitive market niche

D.

max

Postby max » Mar 29, 2017, 8:07 am

Bob_McBob wrote:The 25g capacity makes it a nonstarter for my typical usage, but I guess many people only ever brew single cups. I understand the appeal of fitting in an Aeropress (a criticism of the Feldgrind when it was released), but the Feldgrind is already incredibly easy to travel with, and ~13cm vs. 19cm height doesn't make much difference to me. Most of the weight savings seem to stem from the unibody construction vs. the Feldgrind's chunky separate grind unit. I'm concerned about the thin body wall and how well large beans will feed through the narrow openings around the bearing mount.

For me the big difference is 300 g. That is almost the difference in weight between the feldgrind and Lido 3!
The walls don't look thinner than on a porlex. The porlex is of course not known for build quality, but I have also never heard of issues with the walls.
I'm also concerned about the bean feed...

I really don't need another grinder, but having been looking for the ultimate travel set, I couldn't help myself from backing at that price...

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jesse

Postby jesse » Mar 29, 2017, 8:28 am

Awesome. The ultimate travel/backpacking grinder if the grind quality ends up being on par w/ the Feld and Haus. If so I am definitely picking one up.

max

Postby max » Mar 29, 2017, 8:33 am

ebola5114 wrote:Maybe I don't see them, could someone tell me the innovations of this new grinder? there are many hand grinders out there with different prices tags and sizes, it's a really competitive market niche

D.


Naturally, this is pure speculation, since nobody has seen it:

What I like in this grinder is
- Coming from Knock, I can expect a good grind quality
- Weight. 300 g is nothing. That's half of felgrind or Helor!!
- Size is less of a concern, but smaller is nicer.
- The grind dial. Easy to use like the feldgrind, but seemingly with more precision thanks to a larger dial.
- A lid. The dial being a lid is great for putting it in a bag without getting stray coffee particles all over the place (Hi, Helor and Kinu).
- The price is relatively low, even after the kickstarter.

Some main alternatives would be feldgrind, Lido, Helor, Kinu. All are great and sturdier built. Perhaps grind quality could be discussed, but let's not get into that without information.
However, based on what I've seen, I can't see any clear disadvantage of the aergrind, beyond build. (possible feed issues mentioned earlier?)
It seems to be optimal for travelling, and for those not travelling, it comes at a lower cost.

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redbone

Postby redbone » Mar 29, 2017, 8:45 am

I'd like to see Knock go the other way and make a manual table top grinder with something like a 68mm conical.
Non portable sturdy, easy to set and lock grind settings and remove grinds.
Between order and chaos there is espresso.
Semper discens.


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