The role of fines and what we really want from a grinder - Page 3
- cafeIKE
- Posts: 4704
- Joined: 18 years ago
The SEM images here don't appear to support that notion.Jasonian wrote:I feel the need to inject the notion that the coffee particles aren't randomly shaped. They are ribbon slices.
Ian's Coffee Stuff
http://www.ieLogical.com/coffee
http://www.ieLogical.com/coffee
- RapidCoffee
- Team HB
- Posts: 4994
- Joined: 18 years ago
You may laugh, but this is actually an excellent proposal for studying fines migration. Jim Schulman has wanted to do this for some time.darrensandford wrote:This makes me want to brew a shot, then dry the puck, then slice it into layers, crumble it and then see how many fines are in each layer
John
- RapidCoffee
- Team HB
- Posts: 4994
- Joined: 18 years ago
Like industrial roller-type grinders, burr grinders also produce a bimodal distribution of particle sizes. There is ample evidence for this, including particle size distribution studies during the Titan Grinder Project. Grinders work by crushing the roasted coffee beans between two burrs. In addition to the basic particle size produced by the grinder setting, small particles (fines) are generated as the coffee beans fragment.fac10 wrote:I recently ran across this article which may be of interest to those following this thread. The most interesting point being that some high-end industrial grinders are capable of generating 'bimodal' grinds, where the particle size distribution has two separate medians. Apparently this has some beneficial effects, at least with respect to the manufacture of espresso pods. Presumably, a cruder version of this effect could be achieved by mixing the output of grinders at two separate settings.
Perhaps the blended bimodal grind will be the next bleeding edge in the search for the perfect extraction.
John
- HB
- Admin
- Posts: 21982
- Joined: 19 years ago
I believe David Schomer wrote that in one of his books/columns, but these grounds from a Robur don't look like ribbon slices to me:Jasonian wrote:I feel the need to inject the notion that the coffee particles aren't randomly shaped. They are ribbon slices.
From Scanning Electron Microscope (SEM) analysis of ground coffee
Coffee grounds from Mazzer Super Jolly
Dan Kehn
-
- Posts: 285
- Joined: 18 years ago
Interesting.
Grind particles sure look like "ribbon slices" to my naked eye.
More research is in order, it appears.
Grind particles sure look like "ribbon slices" to my naked eye.
More research is in order, it appears.
"Pro" coffee roaster. Ex barista trainer, competitor, consultant.