Chloride in Water - Recommended Acceptable Ranges
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CarefreeBuzzBuzz
I have LM(0-30), and Synesso (0). Slayer isn't specific. I am interested in collecting recommendations.
Can anyone post a screenshot from owners manuals of any major manufacturers recommendations:
Dalle Corte
Londiunium
Decent Espresso
Lelit
ECM
Others
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Thanks
Can anyone post a screenshot from owners manuals of any major manufacturers recommendations:
Dalle Corte
Londiunium
Decent Espresso
Lelit
ECM
Others
.......
Thanks
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homeburrero
- Team HB
Hi Michael,
The only one I've come across that you don't have is Kees. Here's from a recent Slim Jim manual:
They agree with LM-USA about 30 mg/L chloride. It's interesting that they also give a relatively low sulfate recommendation of 0 - 50 mg/L, but the really odd thing is that they have a 30 mg/L sulfate target. I don 't get that -- may be a goof. They also have an unusually conservative silica recommendation.
With respect to La Marzocco, I think LM USA newer advice is relatively consistent about picking 30 mg/L for max chloride, but not always true for manufacturer's guidelines. the Linea Mini Operator Manuals are more lenient, allow 0-50 mg/L chloride. Here's a snip from the v1.2 11/2015 manual:
The V1.1 operator manual was the same for chloride, but recommended oddly high hardness numbers (90 - 150 ppm) that was probably a goof. Their 1.2 manual now recemmends those numbers for TDS.
And Synesso used to recommend 0 chlorides, but the newer manuals have loosened up on that. Here's for the 7/2016 version of the MVP MPV Hydra Owners Manual:
They still make clear that any chloride may be harmful, exactly as Professor Pavlis has advised here on HB. When they say 5-15 mg/L max chloride I think they are perhaps implying that in some cases 5 may be the max chloride. (For example in blended RO that comes out at low pH and low alkalinity.)
The only one I've come across that you don't have is Kees. Here's from a recent Slim Jim manual:
They agree with LM-USA about 30 mg/L chloride. It's interesting that they also give a relatively low sulfate recommendation of 0 - 50 mg/L, but the really odd thing is that they have a 30 mg/L sulfate target. I don 't get that -- may be a goof. They also have an unusually conservative silica recommendation.
With respect to La Marzocco, I think LM USA newer advice is relatively consistent about picking 30 mg/L for max chloride, but not always true for manufacturer's guidelines. the Linea Mini Operator Manuals are more lenient, allow 0-50 mg/L chloride. Here's a snip from the v1.2 11/2015 manual:
The V1.1 operator manual was the same for chloride, but recommended oddly high hardness numbers (90 - 150 ppm) that was probably a goof. Their 1.2 manual now recemmends those numbers for TDS.
And Synesso used to recommend 0 chlorides, but the newer manuals have loosened up on that. Here's for the 7/2016 version of the MVP MPV Hydra Owners Manual:
They still make clear that any chloride may be harmful, exactly as Professor Pavlis has advised here on HB. When they say 5-15 mg/L max chloride I think they are perhaps implying that in some cases 5 may be the max chloride. (For example in blended RO that comes out at low pH and low alkalinity.)
Pat
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CarefreeBuzzBuzz (original poster)
Pat thanks for the thorough update. You rock!
I had the old numbers so the updates are great.
I had the old numbers so the updates are great.
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silkypull
interesting post... i checked the izzo alex leva manual and it doesn't even have spec in regards to chloride... 
LMWDP #663
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CarefreeBuzzBuzz (original poster)
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