What does it take to bog down a Breville Dual Boiler in real-world use?
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An HB member mentioned that he had pulled 30 shots with minimal breaks while testing a BDB, pausing only to add water (actually there'd be no need to pause, as you could do it while a shot is pulling, easily filling from the top-front). My thinking is that the steam boiler would be the limiting factor; at some point water would have to be drawn in and heated. In my case, it would be to 185°, as I have it set for max steam power. I'm envisioning a scenario where I'd be entertaining a bunch of people lining up for milk drinks. At some point I'd run out of steam, right? But when?
I just conducted a very unscientific test where I simulated steaming 12 oz of milk, which would be enough for four 6 oz caps or two 10 to 12 oz latte's. Here's what I did: I used cold tap water (56°), and heated it to 140°. Of course I understand that milk would generally be around 40° from the fridge, but I can't imagine taking more than a few seconds to make up the difference. It took 60 seconds to get the water up to 140°, a temp slightly higher than the 137° I usually always nail when doing by feel (a few seconds past too-hot-to-touch). I immediately dumped the water, refilled up to the 12 oz line, and did it again. After each round I heard the dedicated steam boiler pump* running for a few seconds to add water. I did this 12 times back to back (!) before I decided that continuing would be too OCD even for me. FWIW, the water res level only went down approx. 1/4".
In the real world, no matter how fast you worked, you'd obviously have signifcantly longer breaks between steaming rounds when making non-stop back to back drinks. My down time was approx. 12 seconds per round; I was racing to get the next one started in order to minimize recovery time. That translates to forty eight 6 oz caps. Even if you discounted a bunch of them due to the temp difference between tap water and fridge milk, that's still quite a lot! I'd love to hear detailed, real-world stories of running out of steam power using this machine in a home setting. I'm frankly having a hard time believing it based on my experiment.
*This killer feature means you'll never have a shot in-progress affected by water being diverted to the boiler.
I just conducted a very unscientific test where I simulated steaming 12 oz of milk, which would be enough for four 6 oz caps or two 10 to 12 oz latte's. Here's what I did: I used cold tap water (56°), and heated it to 140°. Of course I understand that milk would generally be around 40° from the fridge, but I can't imagine taking more than a few seconds to make up the difference. It took 60 seconds to get the water up to 140°, a temp slightly higher than the 137° I usually always nail when doing by feel (a few seconds past too-hot-to-touch). I immediately dumped the water, refilled up to the 12 oz line, and did it again. After each round I heard the dedicated steam boiler pump* running for a few seconds to add water. I did this 12 times back to back (!) before I decided that continuing would be too OCD even for me. FWIW, the water res level only went down approx. 1/4".
In the real world, no matter how fast you worked, you'd obviously have signifcantly longer breaks between steaming rounds when making non-stop back to back drinks. My down time was approx. 12 seconds per round; I was racing to get the next one started in order to minimize recovery time. That translates to forty eight 6 oz caps. Even if you discounted a bunch of them due to the temp difference between tap water and fridge milk, that's still quite a lot! I'd love to hear detailed, real-world stories of running out of steam power using this machine in a home setting. I'm frankly having a hard time believing it based on my experiment.
*This killer feature means you'll never have a shot in-progress affected by water being diverted to the boiler.
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When I'm serving a crowd, the main gating factor is brewing recovery time under load, not the steam boiler for anything but "Big Gulp" lattes. Most espresso machines deal with 3-4 drinks in succession fairly well. More than that and tricks like preheating the incoming water lead to brew temperature overshoots. Of course, my observation is equipment specific.DaveB wrote:! I'd love to hear detailed, real-world stories of running out of steam power using this machine in a home setting.
Realistically, recovery time is a non-issue for the majority of home baristas as one drink every 90 seconds is more than fast enough.
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I do this every year for thanksgiving with mostly milk drinks. I'll take notes next week and let you know...