Weber Moonraker? - Page 24

#231: Post by **Primacog** » June 29th, 2023, 10:32 pm

BaristaBob wrote:My Moonraker showed up this past Monday. After a week of using the device I'd say it's every bit as good as my manual WDT with six 0.3mm needles. No channeling, no problems. I'm looking for time after time consistency and it delivers. Also I'm getting a level surface which is another big plus, as "raking" the surface level the manual way gets tedious at times.

One thing I have observed in use is that it takes some force to turn the dial. It's not possible for me to spin the dial with one finger, I have to turn it using my whole hand. Have others had the same experience? I have the brass gears so maybe there is more friction...or maybe mine is defective?!

Your experience confirms my impression from watching the videos. The etsy tool would have a far faster and easier turning movement as it can be spun quickly with the handle. The barista hustle autocomb promises to be even faster yet though it appears to have fixed orbits.

June 29th, 2023, 10:46 pm

The next implementation I think would be pumping air into it via some type of bellows while stirring. It may need a screen to keep the grinds in but likely stir up the market, so to speak.

June 30th, 2023, 5:58 am

You're holding the portafilter and base of wire stirrer with one hand, while stirring with the second hand. The bellows would need to be foot-operated, in rhythm so you don't make a mess.

I know guys who have trained their whole lives for this job:

June 30th, 2023, 10:43 am

As the old saying goes, "Where there is a will, there is a way."

#235: Post by **Jeff** » June 30th, 2023, 11:38 am

Mod note: Speaking of "way", the last few posts seem to be losing their way and drifting off productive discussion of the topic.

#236: Post by **JHCCoffee** » June 30th, 2023, 11:58 am

Primacog wrote:Actually you could say that etsy guy came first as he had been selling his device for quite a few months before weber launched their moonraker.

There is another thread on the Buying Advice forums that I started in February discussing the etsy device which also discusses the moonraker. I have been using mine without doing most of my distribution routine - just using the etsy device and then tamping now - and I am finding that my shots are flowing as well and tasting as good as the shots that are produced from my usual routine with manual wdt. The great benefit of this device and the moonraker is the randomised motion which devices like the duomo do not yield as they basically rake the same circular tracks again and again. My espresso budget cannot currently afford the moonraker unfortunately so I will stick with the etsy device...

Might you provide a link to the thread. If it produces results that are as good as my best manual WDT, then the added consistency (and a bit of time saving) may make it a worthwhile purchase. If it is well enough made.

#237: Post by **Spitz.me** » June 30th, 2023, 12:51 pm

I have one and it's great.

https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/1356567 ... stribution

#238: Post by **JHCCoffee** » June 30th, 2023, 8:54 pm

Thanks Spitz me. Could you elaborate on why it is great, relative to manual WDT.

June 30th, 2023, 11:02 pm

Also use a 3D printed spirograph WDT after using manual WDT for a month. I'm really liking it, it's much faster and I'd also say more even.

#240: Post by **atruelunatic** » July 1st, 2023, 12:27 pm

Here's video of the umikot:

I put two videos. The first video I try turning it like how you would a Weber Moonraker, and you'll see it's very slow and not really ergonomic. Then I use the turning knob and it rips haha.

Second video was the first time I used it to see how it is. You can loosen the screws a little to let the gears have more play so it spins a little better, but it'll take a little adjusting. I figured out the right speed to turn it without binding at all so I'm pretty happy. If they can get this printed with a smaller height, I think it'd be perfect. If someone will be able to modify the moonraker to have a similar handle, I think that'll be the best of both worlds.