Review of the Decent Espresso DE1+PRO - Page 15
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Did you place an order for a 1.1 version or the limited-run 1.0 version of the PRO model? Hopefully you did not order the 1.1 version by mistake. Those will cost you more and will not start shipping until October.JayBeck wrote:I ordered Sept 1st. Grrr! I have been emailing her. No idea what the hold up is.
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Did you get your machine yet?
I'm still waiting for mine to arrive by tomorrow.
I'm still waiting for mine to arrive by tomorrow.
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Looking forward to hearing more!JayBeck wrote:I did. Information overload right now but overall very pleasant first impressions!
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JayBeck wrote:I did. Information overload right now but overall very pleasant first impressions!
Hey Jayson, lots of fun to come with your new machine. I have a similar setup. Is that a palm tamper or a type of OCD device in the picture?
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I've had a DE1+ v1.0 for a few months now, and it's been a very good experience. With my old Gaggia Classic, I often produced espressos that were unpleasantly sour for my taste. Since I suspect temperature as a main culprit, I experimented with temperature surfing but without much change.
Despite the endless possibilities of the DE1, my procedure is pretty standard so far, pre-infusion at a flow rate of 3-4ml/sec until the pressure reaches 4 bar, then 8-9 bar for about 10 sec and then some decline in pressure to 6bar. My main variation is temperature, and that's been quite satisfying with reproducible changes in flavor. Initially, I did try a bunch of the programmed profiles, based on flow instead of pressure or changing temperature during extraction, but for now it's more than I can evaluate in a useful way.
After a couple of wonderfully fruity espressos (a first for me) with beans that I suspect would have been unpleasant with my Gaggia (a Yiracheffe from RedBird), my machine died. I checked a couple of things based on help from the Decent message board and emails with John, but unfortunately nothing obvious was broken. For a week, I went back to the Gaggia and got unremarkable or fairly bad espressos with those beans, noticeably different from the DE1.
Incredibly, Decent sent a new machine before I could even return my old one, and the new one is going strong.
I was certainly a bit worried while waiting for my first machine and reading from others who expressed reasonable concerns about buying an unproven machine from an unproven company. I am also not at all an early adopter of technology and not particularly interested in the tablet, the recipes-saving and -sharing possibilities, and I do not follow the many things explored on the Decent message board. But I like that I can see and easily control temperature, pressure and flow rate and that these measurements seem reliable. With that and the service Decent offers, I could not be happier.
Despite the endless possibilities of the DE1, my procedure is pretty standard so far, pre-infusion at a flow rate of 3-4ml/sec until the pressure reaches 4 bar, then 8-9 bar for about 10 sec and then some decline in pressure to 6bar. My main variation is temperature, and that's been quite satisfying with reproducible changes in flavor. Initially, I did try a bunch of the programmed profiles, based on flow instead of pressure or changing temperature during extraction, but for now it's more than I can evaluate in a useful way.
After a couple of wonderfully fruity espressos (a first for me) with beans that I suspect would have been unpleasant with my Gaggia (a Yiracheffe from RedBird), my machine died. I checked a couple of things based on help from the Decent message board and emails with John, but unfortunately nothing obvious was broken. For a week, I went back to the Gaggia and got unremarkable or fairly bad espressos with those beans, noticeably different from the DE1.
Incredibly, Decent sent a new machine before I could even return my old one, and the new one is going strong.
I was certainly a bit worried while waiting for my first machine and reading from others who expressed reasonable concerns about buying an unproven machine from an unproven company. I am also not at all an early adopter of technology and not particularly interested in the tablet, the recipes-saving and -sharing possibilities, and I do not follow the many things explored on the Decent message board. But I like that I can see and easily control temperature, pressure and flow rate and that these measurements seem reliable. With that and the service Decent offers, I could not be happier.
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LA wrote:Despite the endless possibilities of the DE1, my procedure is pretty standard so far, pre-infusion at a flow rate of 3-4ml/sec until the pressure reaches 4 bar, then 8-9 bar for about 10 sec and then some decline in pressure to 6bar... I am also not at all an early adopter of technology and not particularly interested in the tablet... I like that I can see and easily control temperature, pressure and flow rate and that these measurements seem reliable. With that and the service Decent offers, I could not be happier.
Nice to hear you got great service. Having followed the DE adventure for a long time now, I am not surprised.
I have really been enjoying the machine as well. The excerpts quoted above could just as well have been written by me. I am also using a similar pressure profile and testing temperature variations. I have played with the flow profiles but they are much harder to dial, so for me they are just fun experiments. I tend to stick to variations of the declining pressure profile, adjusting to various new beans I try. The DE1+ is lots of fun to use each morning.
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Did you ever find out what went wrong or broke in your machine?LA wrote:After a couple of wonderfully fruity espressos (a first for me) with beans that I suspect would have been unpleasant with my Gaggia (a Yiracheffe from RedBird), my machine died. I checked a couple of things based on help from the Decent message board and emails with John, but unfortunately nothing obvious was broken. For a week, I went back to the Gaggia and got unremarkable or fairly bad espressos with those beans, noticeably different from the DE1.
Incredibly, Decent sent a new machine before I could even return my old one, and the new one is going strong.
And was it a sudden catastrophic failure or was it a gradual progression?
Anyway, glad to hear Decent sent you a new machine fairly quickly.
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It is the OCD-style device from Kafatek. My new SSP Flat should be here in a few weeks.r7 wrote:Hey Jayson, lots of fun to come with your new machine. I have a similar setup. Is that a palm tamper or a type of OCD device in the picture?