I was ready to get my first prosumer espresso machine, an Appartamento (currently own a delonghi ec155) all I needed to decide on was white or copper. This was based completely on looks, something about the machine's looks got me. My budget was set at $1550 firm. I already have a super jolly so grinder was not an issue. One of the vendors I was looking at offered a gift card with purchase and I could use that to get a grouphead thermometer for free. HX flush would be a breeze. I had a week before my espresso funds came in so I started really looking at the espresso machine forums. HX flush, grouphead thermometer discussions, hx vs db. Then I started looking at the open box/buyer's remorse deals at different vendors. If I up my budget just a tiny bit, I could move up, but I wouldn't be getting the freebies and I wanted a grouphead thermometer so I could up the budget just a little bit more. Now I'm getting into refurbished db territory! I remember the old recommendation by Schomer 10+ years ago for the brewtus as the best home machine at that time. But I wanted a new machine, and then the qm67 popped into my radar. I don't know how I missed it before, but I just found out about it this week. I read the discussions about it, watched the vids, looked at instagram pics. Budget is now set at $1900. Firm. And here we are. Vendor says they should be getting the machines around Friday. So next week I finally get a real machine. Reading the manual now. Can't wait!