Quick Mill Monza - Jammed pistons
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Hello, everyone!
I'm brand new to this site and have already learned a TON about espresso, water, beans, equipment and more. What an awesome resource for a newbie like myself! An hour or so here and I've already figured out that I know absolutely nothing about espresso.
I'm wondering if anyone has any technical expertise that they might be willing to share, regarding my most recent 'bargain find'. Here's the situation...
I recently purchased a used Quick Mill Monza that I was told was "working perfectly" and then suddenly was unable to power on. Since I'm a sucker for a bargain and figured a sudden power issue could be a simple fix, I snagged it. I opened it up and got the power working again (just a disconnected wire), but now see that there's a much larger problem. In addition to the machine being pretty darn filthy, I'm getting the Group Error message on the display and I see now that the pistons seem to be stuck inside the brew chamber. I can't figure out how to get them out and am a little worried about taking the machine apart myself, for fear of causing even more damage.
Does anyone happen to have any experience with this situation?
I know this is not necessarily the site for superautomatic machines, but man there seems to be a wealth of knowledge and know-how on here. So, taking a shot. (pun intended)
Thanks in advance for any advice you might be able to offer up!
I'm brand new to this site and have already learned a TON about espresso, water, beans, equipment and more. What an awesome resource for a newbie like myself! An hour or so here and I've already figured out that I know absolutely nothing about espresso.
I'm wondering if anyone has any technical expertise that they might be willing to share, regarding my most recent 'bargain find'. Here's the situation...
I recently purchased a used Quick Mill Monza that I was told was "working perfectly" and then suddenly was unable to power on. Since I'm a sucker for a bargain and figured a sudden power issue could be a simple fix, I snagged it. I opened it up and got the power working again (just a disconnected wire), but now see that there's a much larger problem. In addition to the machine being pretty darn filthy, I'm getting the Group Error message on the display and I see now that the pistons seem to be stuck inside the brew chamber. I can't figure out how to get them out and am a little worried about taking the machine apart myself, for fear of causing even more damage.
Does anyone happen to have any experience with this situation?
I know this is not necessarily the site for superautomatic machines, but man there seems to be a wealth of knowledge and know-how on here. So, taking a shot. (pun intended)
Thanks in advance for any advice you might be able to offer up!
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Kirk
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Thanks for the link, Kirk! Good resource for sure. I appreciate it.
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If what jammed the piston was hard water deposits or coffee oil buildup a soaking and scrubbing with vinegar or descaler might help release things.
Kirk
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Here's a link to the most up-to-date manual for the machine: https://shopify-er.s3.amazonaws.com/res ... manual.pdf
While the motor will only spin the pistons in one direction, you can move the piston in reverse to unjam it by spinning the motor backwards by hand. To do that, you'll need to remove the top and rear panels of the machine. Once off, page 16 of the manual will show the process for doing that.
Once the piston is moving freely again, I recommend cleaning and re-lubricating the entire assembly. I recommend DOW111 as a lubricant, and this is a good video which shows how to clean and set the piston assembly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YSfOiYKXkc
While the motor will only spin the pistons in one direction, you can move the piston in reverse to unjam it by spinning the motor backwards by hand. To do that, you'll need to remove the top and rear panels of the machine. Once off, page 16 of the manual will show the process for doing that.
Once the piston is moving freely again, I recommend cleaning and re-lubricating the entire assembly. I recommend DOW111 as a lubricant, and this is a good video which shows how to clean and set the piston assembly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YSfOiYKXkc
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That sucker is pretty darn dirty. This would make sense. Thank you!mrgnomer wrote:If what jammed the piston was hard water deposits or coffee oil buildup a soaking and scrubbing with vinegar or descaler might help release things.
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Wow! I think that's exactly what I needed! Thanks so much, Sam. Going to try all of this, including the cleaning and lubricating, and will report back on the results.GreenEggsAndSam wrote:Here's a link to the most up-to-date manual for the machine: https://shopify-er.s3.amazonaws.com/res ... manual.pdf
While the motor will only spin the pistons in one direction, you can move the piston in reverse to unjam it by spinning the motor backwards by hand. To do that, you'll need to remove the top and rear panels of the machine. Once off, page 16 of the manual will show the process for doing that.
Once the piston is moving freely again, I recommend cleaning and re-lubricating the entire assembly. I recommend DOW111 as a lubricant, and this is a good video which shows how to clean and set the piston assembly: video
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No problem! Hopefully that's all you need! If you run the machine without the two pistons installed and it still gets stuck, that's bad news. Otherwise it's likely easily fixed.Wow! I think that's exactly what I needed! Thanks so much, Sam. Going to try all of this, including the cleaning and lubricating, and will report back on the results.
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Fingers crossed!
Assuming that if it doesn't run without the pistons installed, I'm looking at replacing a motor. Ugh.
Assuming that if it doesn't run without the pistons installed, I'm looking at replacing a motor. Ugh.
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For what it's worth, the piston o-rings are QuickMill Part # OR4137. I would start with: clean the heck out of the brew unit, lubricate the new o-rings and replace the old ones.
https://www.chriscoffee.com/search?type ... t&q=OR4137
https://www.chriscoffee.com/search?type ... t&q=OR4137