Lelit Bianca User Experience - Page 44

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#431: Post by nodrac »

thm655321 wrote:Speaking of Lelit accessories, has anyone tried their distribution tool? Here is a pic:

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I am using this Lelit leveler. Its bad because quite a bit of coffee grounds stuck to it.

I want to ask a question. I use backflushing method to clean my Bianca monthly. I use puly caff powder detergent. I start pump 15 second stop wait 15 second and start again. Total 5 cycles i do same thins. But after first pump off lever move hard. And i feel friction. After cleaning completed. 1 or 2 espresso shot later lever moves normally. this is normal? What do you suggest?


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#432: Post by sweaner »

The increase in friction after backflushing with detergent is normal, due to the elimination of coffee oils that help with lubrication.
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#433: Post by JayBeck »

another_jim wrote:I have a squib on playing with needle valve, water debit, and dwell time on the Bianca. Turns out you can turn the machine into a rough approximation of a 1990s, no-jet Linea by turning the valve full open.

I needed to do some early aughts style espresso porn shots, so I loosened the little retaining screw on the paddle, and did some lifting and turning until the valve was fill open. The water debit went up to 4 ounces in 10 seconds, and the group hit full pressure in 2 to 3 seconds (with a no-head space, full up basket).

The paddle works perfectly well without the retaining screw fully tightened. I've left it so I can lift the paddle off and opened the needle valve more fully. I rarely do non-profiled shots, but with the on and off discussion about the occasional desirability of a no frills, super aggressive machine (e.g. for grinder testing), it's nice to know that the Bianca, with its stiffer preinfusion spring, can be set to a super aggressive mode by fully opening the needle valve.
Jim -- Would you be kind enough to post a video of how you set up your paddle to do this? Particularly of interest is the total process to 'convert' the machine from flow profiling focused to 'old school / high debit' focused.

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#434: Post by another_jim (original poster) »

I'm planning a video showing how to pull the three main styles of espresso shot (Italian, Seattle, Third Wave). This will include coffee choices, grind settings, dosing, basket choices and machine configurations. Since the Bianca is so easy to reconfigure; I'll be able to shoot it in my one take, what director?, what storyboard? style. But it's still going to take a few weeks of planning to get done.

In the mean time, just loosen the little screw on the paddle. Open the valve until the paddle hits the machine on the right (this is about 40% open), then lift up the paddle and replace it on the valve stem so it is all the way left, and open the valve some more. IIRC, it will be full open after about 2 1/2 turns like this.

When you are done Seattling, turn the valve all the way off, and then reset the paddle so it is all the way to the left, and you are back to the factory set up for profiling, (or for E61 classic style shots with the paddle all the way to the right, and the valve about 40% open, operating like a group jet)

Here's a tech note: The water debit with the valve full open is about 12 mL/sec, it is 5 mL/sec with the paddle full right in the stock configuration (when paddle full left closes the valve completely). This 5 ml/sec is less than a standard E61's water debit (about 8 mL/sec), but since the pre-infusion spring is set much stiffer, the overall pressure ramp up time (with paddle full right) is the same. The lower water debit is required to make make the profiling system work; so the Lelit engineers stiffened up the preinfusion spring to keep the machine compatible with standard E61s with paddle full right. An alternative would be to have the regular preinfusion spring and have a valve that opens and closes completely in a half turn. But that would have screwed up the wonderfully precise control you get from the Bianca paddle (which in this aspect blows the LM, Slayer, Hydra, and Mina paddles away)

Here's a Mano note: to do the Seattle style shots, you also want to make sure you grind coarse, leave very little head space in the basket, and run the brew boiler a tad hotter, since the shots will take less time.
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#435: Post by domi »

JayBeck wrote:Jim -- Would you be kind enough to post a video of how you set up your paddle to do this? Particularly of interest is the total process to 'convert' the machine from flow profiling focused to 'old school / high debit' focused.
I second this suggestion!

Is the approach used by Jim kind of similar to what Dave C. describes in his video on paddle adjustment?

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#436: Post by hfal »

amos wrote:Just got mine last week and it's impressive what comes out of it. I did notice an odd thing - the water from the hot water has a bitter smell and taste. Once I noticed it I realized the steam had the same, just weaker. I thought it might have been the purifier it came with but the coffee water seems to taste fine. Could it have been something left in the steam boiler?
Hello. I have lelit bianca. I have the same problem. The water from the hot water tap has a bitter taste and smell. No bitter taste in the water from the group. What can be the problem. the machine is new and never cleaned with chemical cleaners.

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#437: Post by selmerfudd »

selmerfudd wrote:Dave -- noticed something strange on my Bianca
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Well Jim ,,I am still having the same issue - sometimes my Bianca will warm up to the right temp within the boiler but the group will be barely warm to the touch - and this after 90 minutes ,,I have to pump a few ounces of water - and wait another 15 minutes for correct extraction temperatures at the group . Am I experiencing air lock issues in the thermosyphon ?

thanks for you help !

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#438: Post by another_jim (original poster) »

It sounds like a thermosyphon stall. One of the alt.coffee originals, Randy Glass, has a how to piece on it.

I'm curious, are you starting it from cold or from standby or while the machine is still hot. I'm asking because in a cold start, the firmware overheats the boiler, which gooses the thermosyphon.
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#439: Post by selmerfudd replying to another_jim »

Hi Jim I am starting from a cold start -- even if I wait long periods of time teh grouo stays cold-

my only way of solving it until now has been to turn on the machine ,,quickly activate the pump so as to get water to flow out the portafilter ,,then turn the machine off and then on again ,,to restart the frimware from scratch ,

what can be done??

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#440: Post by another_jim (original poster) »

I'm not sure. Flushing is the cure for occasional stalls; it happening often from cold starts is new to me. You may want to contact your service department. Lelit's engineers have been very responsive to bugs; and your vendor can contact them.
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