Is there such a thing as a "bad" Italian espresso machine?

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slipchuck
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Postby slipchuck » Aug 12, 2017, 7:03 pm

Almost every Italian machine discussed on this forum seems to get high approval rating.
Is the such thing as a bad model to stay away from?

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Postby desmodici » Aug 13, 2017, 11:37 pm

Not that I have an answer, but to clarify your question, bad as in quality/reliability or bad as in poor performance etc.? I think if you break it down a little more there are likely machines that have reputation to be more/less reliable than others and ones that perform better in different situations/different needs. Would also be helpful to clarify price point (e.g. I'm sure there are really bad machine sir you're looking to spend no more than $500). The question as it stands is a little too broad

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Postby aecletec » Aug 13, 2017, 11:39 pm

Enrico of Italy?

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Postby kize » Aug 14, 2017, 2:05 am

The bad Italian espresso machine- is the one you don't own.

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Postby yakster » Aug 14, 2017, 2:30 am

aecletec wrote:Enrico of Italy?


Beat me to it.
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Postby wachuko » Aug 14, 2017, 7:45 am

aecletec wrote:Enrico of Italy?


Yikes.... just saw a couple of videos of it... I think that I can make better coffee in my krups...

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Postby Randy G. » Aug 14, 2017, 2:45 pm

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.. and I HAVE made better espresso with my Krups 863, $12 thrift store find. To be fair, it was made in Switzerland.
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Postby Tonefish » Aug 14, 2017, 3:46 pm

Sadly, my Mr Coffee - Caffe Ristorante "espresso and cappuccino" maker from the 80's was made in Italy. It cannot make espresso.

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Postby cuppajoe » Aug 15, 2017, 9:21 pm

slipchuck wrote:Almost every Italian machine discussed on this forum seems to get high approval rating.
Is the such thing as a bad model to stay away from?

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Randy


If asking due to a potential new purchase and looking for a 'pro-sumer' machine, I would research who has good support in your area for any you are considering. Also be aware that all the big name Italian companies market consumer end products, usually made by someone else with their name slapped on it.

As far as picking something up second hand, try to stay with relatively newer machines with support in your area. Unless you are handy and enjoy fiddling with stuff it's best to avoid most machines used in a commercial setting. Sourcing parts and service info for vintage gear can be a challenge.
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Postby ash4889 » Aug 16, 2017, 9:45 pm

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