2018 Profitec Pro 500 now comes with PID. - Page 7

#61: Post by **JayBeck** » February 4th, 2018, 4:34 pm

Stanic wrote:personally, if I had to decide between the two, I'd rather get the 300 and spend more on a grinder

When I purchased my 500 they were the same price. Now that they have increased the price the decision would be much harder. If the PID makes flushes tangibly easier to control then the price increase would be worth it for sure.

#62: Post by **JayBeck** » February 4th, 2018, 4:40 pm

RobertL wrote:We're getting way off topic and this is probably not the place to debate this so I'll try to make this short and leave it be.

Lancealot I agree that Jay's comments are probably not based off user experience. The Pro 300 has plenty of steam power even for multiple drinks. My pressure runs on the high side at 1.5 bars when idle. My steam pressure never drops below 1.2 maybe 1.1 bars. As quick as you can prep another shot and get the milk for the next drink the steam gauge is holding at 1.5 bar.

Does the Pro 500 have better steaming capabilities, sure it probably does. Is it fair to say the Pro 300 "super weak steam"? Not at all. I think both are great machines and it comes down to personal preference. The idea of cooling flushes lead me away from an E61 machine. I know plenty of people love them and the cooling flush probably isn't a big deal once you get used to it. Like I said personal preference.

The awesome thing is that we have choices and can weigh what is important to each of us when we buy our machines.

I agree-lets not start trolling and if I sounded like a troll I apologise. The purpose of this thread was to make known the Pro 500 now has a PID and early reviews claim it makes the machine more temperature stable. Once some HBers get them and can test it then we will know more definitively if the price increase is worth it.

#63: Post by **shanewiebeftr** » March 13th, 2018, 9:39 pm

I recently received the pro 500 with pid for the same price as the regular version. There were major shipping delays when I ordered so I was upgraded for free

! As this is my first serious espresso machine, I did a lot of research before spending my money. The cooling flushes required are much shorter than I thought they would need to be. Sometimes, it's just a force of habit to run the group for a few seconds before installing the portafilter. There is almost never any steam coming out of the group head for whatever that's worth. I wasn't prepared to spend the extra money on the pid but I'm happy with the free upgrade.

March 13th, 2018, 11:55 pm

Congrats! Enjoy the new machine, i am (and i am sure many others) are looking forward to your insight on the machine and its workings.

#65: Post by **Tanax** » March 14th, 2018, 6:04 am

shanewiebeftr wrote:I recently received the pro 500 with pid for the same price as the regular version. There were major shipping delays when I ordered so I was upgraded for free ! As this is my first serious espresso machine, I did a lot of research before spending my money. The cooling flushes required are much shorter than I thought they would need to be. Sometimes, it's just a force of habit to run the group for a few seconds before installing the portafilter. There is almost never any steam coming out of the group head for whatever that's worth. I wasn't prepared to spend the extra money on the pid but I'm happy with the free upgrade.

Speaking of steam - what are your experiences and reactions to the steaming performance of the new PID version?

March 14th, 2018, 12:14 pm

Keep in mind That my previous machine was a Starbucks Sirena single boiler with a thermoblock. To me, this is a huge step up and I'm pretty happy with it. I usually only make one or two drinks at a time so I'm not sure how fast it recovers for multiple large milk drinks. My friend works at a shop and mentioned that it was quite a bit less powerful than their commercial machine but that's to be expected. I have the boiler set to 250 and the pressure sits at just over 1 bar. Hope this helps.

March 14th, 2018, 12:17 pm

Radio.YYZ wrote:Congrats! Enjoy the new machine, i am (and i am sure many others) are looking forward to your insight on the machine and its workings.

Thanks. I've had it for three weeks now and I'm loving it

#68: Post by **Tanax** » March 15th, 2018, 9:55 am

shanewiebeftr wrote:Keep in mind That my previous machine was a Starbucks Sirena single boiler with a thermoblock. To me, this is a huge step up and I'm pretty happy with it. I usually only make one or two drinks at a time so I'm not sure how fast it recovers for multiple large milk drinks. My friend works at a shop and mentioned that it was quite a bit less powerful than their commercial machine but that's to be expected. I have the boiler set to 250 and the pressure sits at just over 1 bar. Hope this helps.

Thanks Shane!