Help with Metropolis Redline - Page 2
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I've gone through a few bags of Redline over the past couple years and agree it is on the light side. If you're in Chicago it's a pretty great value for solid beans especially relative to many of the other local roasters and shops. I've caught <2wk old roast dates even at some big chain local grocery stores a few times for like $12.
Pretty cool that you got a friendly and candid response.
I'm usually using a naked triple basket, maybe 23-25g dose with say 25-35g out (triple ristretto-ish? which I may be cursed at for by some around here ), and i liked these beans so they probably do suit this style relative to a more classic double.
Pretty cool that you got a friendly and candid response.
I'm usually using a naked triple basket, maybe 23-25g dose with say 25-35g out (triple ristretto-ish? which I may be cursed at for by some around here ), and i liked these beans so they probably do suit this style relative to a more classic double.
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To the OP, I experienced somewhat similar variation with Metropolis Redline ~ 1/2 decade ago. The owner replied in that thread. It seems you have experienced their good customer service too with their email reply. I would second ilVecchio's final recommendations in his post #5.
Questions for long time Metropolis Redline drinkers
Questions for long time Metropolis Redline drinkers
LMWDP #568
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I can echo most of the sentiments here, I had thought it must have been my grinder drifting around on me until I brought in different beans. I gave up on it while ago. My very first bag was amazing, and the next two times seemed to be lighter and pull watery. This was over the course of a year probably, and was over a year ago.
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This thread is making me wish Metropolis would offer something like Intelligentsia Coffee does: Black Cat and Black Cat Analog (with the latter usually not so "third wave-ish"). The old fart (in spirit)/traditionalist in me would appreciate the choice.
That being said, I did enjoy the Redline at their Granville (by Loyola University Chicago) location when I met up with friend there last month. It was pulled on pump machine (I forgot LaMarzocco 3 group vs. Synesso 3 group) with Mazzer (?Robur vs Major) grinders. Like OP, I too find Redline too watery when pulled using my manual lever (even higher pressure >9bar) and using 68mm conical burr grinder and brew ratios>60%.
Glad we as espresso customers have vast # of choices for great roasters.
That being said, I did enjoy the Redline at their Granville (by Loyola University Chicago) location when I met up with friend there last month. It was pulled on pump machine (I forgot LaMarzocco 3 group vs. Synesso 3 group) with Mazzer (?Robur vs Major) grinders. Like OP, I too find Redline too watery when pulled using my manual lever (even higher pressure >9bar) and using 68mm conical burr grinder and brew ratios>60%.
Glad we as espresso customers have vast # of choices for great roasters.
LMWDP #568
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Assuming we have some chicago-area representation here. If you aren't using Redline, what local beans are everyone using?
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Shame to hear the change, Redline use to be a chocolate bomb years ago. Reminds me of when Blackcat was awesome, then it morphed into something that was so off-putting and polar opposite, reminded me of rotten fruit with how sour it was even at their shops. I actually remember making some drinks at the house and friend asked if I put chocolate in as thats how heavy the chocolate notes were with Redline.
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I recently bought some Greenline (the unroasted version) as well as the pre-roasted Redline from Metropolis. I agree that the Redline is/was roasted so light that I couldn't drink it. With the Greenline home roasted to FC+ the results are much better IMO. More along the lines of what I remember Black Cat tasting like a ways back.
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Which makes you wonder why Metropolis decided to roast it light now.... it wasn't roasted as light previously years ago and was a chocolate bomb. On their site it still says medium, which is what it said years ago... but seems from comments its not medium at all.