Christopher Feran's Aviary Roastery (KickStarter) - Page 2

#11: Post by **Iceman2913** » May 9th, 2023, 1:45 pm

I hope he takes his time with it, Scott rao seemed rather rushed putting his coffee out.

Luca summed it all up though.

May 9th, 2023, 2:31 pm

luca wrote:Well worth discussing. My expectation is that, whatever it is, it will be clean, aromatic and sweet and roasted light, with a fair bit of acidity in the roast. ...

Despite the cost, I am trying to not have any expectations. I have never had the pleasure of having his coffees. I also haven't had any coffees that were fermented with Koji or were rehydrated.

luca wrote:... I sort of assume that the blend that he will have around will probably be more suitable as whatever the closest that he will get to comfort food espresso will be, and I'd expect that that will probably result from lighter roasts of green that is carefully selected to perform well as part of a blend and roasted light, rather than green purchased to a price point and roasted to obscure its inherent flavours, with the rationale that the customers are going to add milk anyway.

I was a bit curious about the "Boomer Eraser" omniroast blend add-on, but not enough to overcome my distaste at the name, however hopefully tongue-in-cheek. (For those unaware, "Boomer Eraser" is covid-19.)

#13: Post by **Milligan** » May 9th, 2023, 11:29 pm

baldheadracing wrote: I was a bit curious about the "Boomer Eraser" omniroast blend add-on, but not enough to overcome my distaste at the name, however hopefully tongue-in-cheek. (For those unaware, "Boomer Eraser" is covid-19.)

I saw that term and didn't know what it meant. I looked at it negatively of course. I don't care for terms for groups of people that are stereotypical or reductive. I looked up that use of phrase and saw just as you say, a term that went around social media during Covid. It's far too sardonic for my tastes. I personally had loved elders "erased" during the pandemic so it is sad to see something like that used with such levity.

Anyway, strangely dark thing to want to put in someone's mind when browsing coffee. At least it is for me. Apologies for bringing a grim tone to the thread. Perhaps that name means something different?

#14: Post by **Iceman2913** » May 9th, 2023, 11:41 pm

Yea, he should change the name of it. Just call it the classic, or espresso blend. Boomer eraser sounds like such a strange name to settle on anyway for a yearly available coffee.

"In addition to the above, we will feature (year-round and always available to order) a coffee we're calling Boomer Eraser-a more developed single-origin espresso created in collaboration with coffee growers with a milk-drink destination in mind."

from google quck search "Some young people are not only downplaying the need to act in a communal way regarding covid-19, they are suggesting that it is a way to weed out those from an older, out-of-touch generation using terms like Boomer Eraser and Boomer Remover.

#15: Post by **Almico** » May 10th, 2023, 11:49 am

Nope...

And boomer eraser is not even an accurate term. The average age for covid deaths was 85.5. Oldest boomers are 77 now.

Horrific name either way. He should be ashamed.

May 10th, 2023, 12:48 pm

<shrug> The original context of the term was gallows humour; a genre of humour which can often be seen as offensive when taken out of context or presented to a different audience. As Alan noted, the term isn't factual. Using the term in a blend context raised my eyebrows, but I don't take the term itself seriously.

#17: Post by **Almico** » May 10th, 2023, 1:44 pm

I like a good murder ballad as much as the next guy, but I wouldn't name a coffee blend Frankie and Johnny or Kate McCannon. It's just uncouth.

Every generation just tries to do the best with what it has to work with. It's nice to have the advantage of hindsight, but it's not like kids today would have done anything different if they were there, then. Anyone that says they would are deluding themselves. And self-righteousness never looks good on anyone.

I wonder how Gen ?? are going to feel about the current generation that is about to unleash AI on the world. Glad I won't be around to see it...but I digress. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

I was never the kind of person to buy coffee through the mail, so that's why selling it that way just sits funny. I would never start up a roasting business with the goal of selling beans across the country. I like the local aspect of coffee and being of service to my community...people I see every day, know their kids, hire their kids, etc.

#18: Post by **archipelago** » May 10th, 2023, 2:11 pm

Hi all, thanks for your support of the project. I've got about a week left in the campaign and a ways to go toward the ~$80k in total startup costs. I'll do what I can along the way to make it worthwhile for those who backed the Kickstarter.

Many of you have read my blog and know that my sense of humor is on the darker side-and there's a lot of subtext to be explored here that is necessary for discussion. To those who grow it and process it, coffee ain't just coffee.

As I noted in email to Alan:

I believe you're referring to "Boomer Remover" which was the gen Z nickname for covid-19.

However, tongue-in-cheek is something I wield commonly to great effect-clearly. I'm referring specifically to a style of espresso that's come to be known as "boomer shots" (traditional ristretto or 1:2 shots pulled in 25-35s at 9 bar). This coffee is not designed for that application and the justification and protocol will be clearly detailed on the website.

#19: Post by **Almico** » May 10th, 2023, 4:26 pm

luca wrote: Christopher's experience and established relationships with producers that he actually visits (I'm sure it won't be all of them) are competitive advantages why we might want to try his coffee, and once you do try his coffee, if the roast level and the green selection appeals to you, those are reasons why you might want to keep going back. I guess we'll see what transparency price information comes out.

I think of it another way...how many producers can one roaster get to experience, really? And once they establish ongoing relationships the potential variety narrows even more. It might be stellar coffee, but one roaster can only travel to so many countries and farms if his day job is roasting coffee.

Q-graders and dedicated coffee buyers, whether from small companies or larger importers get far more widespread sampling and import 100s and 100s of lots. I get to sample as many of their offerings for free and cherry pick the few I like and want to add to my offerings. Don't get me wrong, I would love to travel to origin and experience the process first hand, but as far as being guaranteed to get my hands on really great coffee, I'd rather let the pros do it. I don't have the time or inclination to travel that much.

#20: Post by **archipelago** » May 10th, 2023, 4:47 pm

Well... My primary work is as a consulting buyer representing about 25 containers a year of total volume for 3-4 roasters in the U.S. across the quality and scale spectrum. I also work for an importing company through which I evaluate thousands of coffees a year, often unsolicited.