Cafes in Italy - Page 2

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larscoffee
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#11: Post by larscoffee »

I recently spent a month in Italy. Although coffee culture is spectacular there, craft coffee is still in its infancy. A local barista pointed me toward this app: https://europeancoffeetrip.com/ (This app was the most useful although there is also the app Guida Caffe) It is very common to buy an espresso for 1€ and an accompanied Broche style baked good for another 1€. I'd order Doppio shots (Double shots.) and often times for my wife and myself, our morning coffee and treats would be less than 5€.

"Prendo un cafe doppio per favore!"

This app helped me find places such as:
Florence
https://dittaartigianale.com/
https://www.instagram.com/melaleuca.florence/?hl=en
FLUID https://modbar.com/fluid-is-now-open-a- ... nce-italy/

Milano
https://www.instagram.com/nowherecafe.milano/?hl=en

Modena
MenoMoka https://www.instagram.com/menomoka/?hl=en

Lavorno
Drupa https://europeancoffeetrip.com/cafe/drupacaffe-livorno/

Of course, if you are heading to Italy, you must go to LaMarzocco Academia outside of Florence. It is well worth the trip. They have a tour, but also offer courses and tastings (Which I wish I knew about.) You could spend a few good days there doing all kinds of activities. The employees were really welcoming and they have an amazing interior cafe (Not sure if it is open to the public... but worth checking out.)
https://international.lamarzocco.com/en ... -in-italy/

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#12: Post by Oskuk »

larscoffee wrote:Although coffee culture is spectacular there, craft coffee is still in its infancy.
Yes. God bless it is! I shall hate it when Rome too has these tattooed barista bearded nerds all over!
;-)

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#13: Post by Giampiero replying to Oskuk »

:lol: :lol:

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#14: Post by buckersss »

I'm not a espresso connoisseur by any means. None the less, I recently returned from a few weeks in Italy. I didn't bother trying to identify what coffee was being served. or go to any craft places. maybe I did it wrong... I used other means to determine if I'm going to get my espresso from a certain shop.

Because I'm a lowly enthusiast, I don't agree with "don't go where the tourists are". I had a satisfying shots from cafes that I'd otherwise consider to be tourist traps with regards to food offerings and food prices. And also great shots - as well as juice - at some train stations (I.E Monza outside of Milano Centrale). Some for as low as 1.20 euro too! I do generally believe "don't go where the tourists are" can be true for food.

This was how I decided where to go for espresso when I was there:
1) canvas. When sightseeing if there were a bunch of cafes in a small radius I'd visit all of them before deciding.
2) machines. I skipped places without multi group machines. This was the ONLY criteria I used to eliminate based on machines. Having said this, like @Oskuk I was biased if I found a shop with a lever (only saw these in the south).
3) Grinders. Mazzers seemed to be the standard, but not always. I skipped places that seemed like they had a budget grinder.
4) baristas. maybe the most important. While canvassing the cafe, I watched the barista to gauge how confident they seemed. Not be an ageist, but I had more worse shots from younger baristas than older baristas (those who seemed 50+ years older). That's not to say my best shot was from an older barista. I just found them to be more consistent.
5) volume. I tended to steer away from smaller cafes that didn't have as much volume. Not always. But all else being equal this was the tie breaker.

Depending on how many cafes are in a given area; it may not be feasible to decide this way. Also, i prioritized sight seeing and didn't "schedule" coffee breaks. I indulged in them when the mood struck. IMO good espresso was easy to find.


Are you going to the sorrentine penisula? It sounds like you were mostly doing big cities. A lot of the beautiful sights on the penisula are only accessible by car or boat. That said if you like ceramics and pottery, you may want to consider a day trip from
Napoli to Vietri sul Mare. Vietri sul Mare Is one of the few places on the penisula accessible by train.

My family was tired and we missed this town in our itinerary. I wish we hadn't. There are some incredible ceramic factories there, probably among the best in the world. I wish I had brought a carry on suitcase filled with styrofoam pellets just for this town. Moving around the penisula I wa surprised at how much variation there was in the ceramics sold. From what I could discern, Vietri seemed like the Mecca. I also wish I had scheduled a ceramics class for us when there. I digress.

Hope you have a blast!

pwest
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#15: Post by pwest »

Don't rule out the Autogrill.

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#16: Post by mathof »

I've found train stations and airports in Italy maintain a high standard of espresso in their coffee bars. This may be because the many Italians who frequent them wouldn't have it any other way. If there are several places to choose from, I often ask people are working there where I can get a buon caffè.

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#17: Post by CarefreeBuzzBuzz »

I just posted the thread below and then saw this thread.

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#18: Post by Brewzologist »

Timely thread. Thanks for posting. Off to Rome and Tuscany soon.

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#19: Post by CarefreeBuzzBuzz »

Not all places recommended are good. We had some mediocre ones in UK but it's a solid reference Some are great. YMMV.

larscoffee wrote:I recently spent a month in Italy. Although coffee culture is spectacular there, craft coffee is still in its infancy. A local barista pointed me toward this app: https://europeancoffeetrip.com/ (This app was the most useful although there is also the app Guida Caffe) It is very common to buy an espresso for 1€ and an accompanied Broche style baked good for another 1€. I'd order Doppio shots (Double shots.) and often times for my wife and myself, our morning coffee and treats would be less than 5€.

"Prendo un cafe doppio per favore!"

This app helped me find places such as:
Florence
https://dittaartigianale.com/
https://www.instagram.com/melaleuca.florence/?hl=en
FLUID https://modbar.com/fluid-is-now-open-a- ... nce-italy/

Milano
https://www.instagram.com/nowherecafe.milano/?hl=en

Modena
MenoMoka https://www.instagram.com/menomoka/?hl=en

Lavorno
Drupa https://europeancoffeetrip.com/cafe/drupacaffe-livorno/

Of course, if you are heading to Italy, you must go to LaMarzocco Academia outside of Florence. It is well worth the trip. They have a tour, but also offer courses and tastings (Which I wish I knew about.) You could spend a few good days there doing all kinds of activities. The employees were really welcoming and they have an amazing interior cafe (Not sure if it is open to the public... but worth checking out.)
https://international.lamarzocco.com/en ... -in-italy/
Artisan.Plus User-
Artisan Quick Start Guide
http://bit.ly/ArtisanQuickStart

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#20: Post by dparrish »

I just returned. Sadly didn't make it to Naples, but in Rome, Sant Eustachio and Tazza d'Oro were both great. Sant Eustachio especially I enjoyed. The hype about crema is true...it really is pretty thick, though using only Arabica beans. But I don't think there are any "tricks" used as some previous posters have suggested. I brought a bag of their beans home and have been making my way through them...SAME crema. The taste is not overly-roasted, but I would say just into the 2nd crack. The wood roasting produces a very sweet, milk chocolate note that is great alone but cuts through milk nicely. We sat at a table at Eustachio, stood up at the bar at Tazza d'Oro. I highly recommend both (unless you have a third wave preference, which neither is going to satisfy), and the Parthenon in between:).